Greatest Trainer and Why?

[The Old LefHook]

At the same time, Whitey Brimstein trained every champion in every division. That will never be equaled. Doesn't mean he was the best though.

[The Old LefHook]

Cus was a friend and a smart evaluator however he was abit one dimentional
in his approach to the sport. His fighters were in top condition and mentally strong and willing. My amateur team fought against the Catskill kids for many years so I know first hand how Cus approached the game and he knew mine.

Ray Corso

Very interesting. Can you explain what was one dimensional about his approach? Not that I am doubting you, because I am not. You are the only one qualified to make such a statement, so I would like to know more about the idea.

[f15bone]

I always liked Eddie Futch....

Extremely knowledgeable & well versed in the little nuances also served as a mentor for alotta fighters....

[Cyberspace]

I chose Dundee because Leonard and Ali but they all have had great times and bad times.

[joeandthebums]

Cus was the most intelligent trainer, he gave us the most exciting fighter, and perhaps the most effective fighter ever in his prime. To me he is the greatest, I don't care what the masses think Cus is scarily advanced in some areas especially for a boxing coach I don't see that spark in any other trainer listed.

On that criteria George Gainsford should be on the list.

Dan Florio is worth a name check among all the praise being given to D'Amato.

Out of the options I voted Blackburn.

[Wuckoo]

Mr. Blackburn influenced the trainers in the future more than any other trainer in my opinion. I think from the 30s through the 40s the combination punching and working the body to the head is Mr. Blackburns approach.

Ray Arcel also starts very early and has omne of the longest careers with great success on his resume. You better be in top condition to train with and fight for him.

One of my more current trainers I respect is Mr. Benton, George knew the inside and outside game well. He could teach boxing on the move and teach short stepping. He was concerned with balance and upper body movement. A fine trainer!

Cus was a friend and a smart evaluator however he was abit one dimentional
in his approach to the sport. His fighters were in top condition and mentally strong and willing. My amateur team fought against the Catskill kids for many years so I know first hand how Cus approached the game and he knew mine.

I think the team of Arcel & Brown are probably the best corner in the history of boxing.
I think Dundee's corners were outstanding also. He was in charge, one voice and only two basic instructions were usually given. One for offense and one for defense! The fewer words sploken the better, get air in & out and get the fighter focussed again.
Eddie Futch is another favorite, calm and collected and a very knowledgeable man.

the best seconds (cutmen) Eddie Aliano, Ralph Citro are two I used when ever they were avalible. Jimmy Mantoyo from Calif. is another excellant cornerman.

A knowledgeable and confident corner can actually have as big of an outcome
on a bout than the fighters can.

Ray Corso

Thanks for the info Ray, I remember reading dundee's memoir and he had a lot of respect for arcel. A lot of people nowadays seem to overlook arcel but I think he was one of the best. Even did his roadwork with his fighters sometimes

[Wuckoo]

Very interesting. Can you explain what was one dimensional about his approach? Not that I am doubting you, because I am not. You are the only one qualified to make such a statement, so I would like to know more about the idea.

Tbh I always thought cus' love for the peek a boo style made him one dimensional. He taught everyone he trained to use that style even when they were tall. When you look at him in comparison to other trainers he was one of the best motivators and produced two great heavyweight champions but his roster isn't as extensive as say dundee or arcel.

[just the facts]

I chose Dundee because Leonard and Ali but they all have had great times and bad times.

Dundee actually did very little of the training. I believe he came up with the fight strategy and corner advise, but not much at training camp.

[just the facts]

My pick is Arcel, but sooner or later Nacho Beristain has to be included in this conversation

[sonnyboyx2]

Ray Arcel by a country mile..