HW with the fastest hands p4p

[Shanus]

Ali, no question.

[Da Iceman]

did you think about it or just post?

[Shanus]

Of course I thought about it, it was between Floyd Patterson, Ali and RJJ, I narrowed it down to Ali.

[Left2body]

nah, i think muhammad ali's head movement was even better.

I think Ali was more elusive in his prime than Tyson was but that is also largely based on his fighting style which was the classical boxer/puncher. Its easier to avoid punchs when your boxing and keeping your distance from fighters than if your attempting to get inside of them because of your smaller size and arm reach i.e. Tyson.

[butterfly1964]

tyson arms were almost twice the size of ali's and he still moved almost as fast as him.

not really, because ali had longer arms than tyson, so they could have been the same size, maybe.

[butterfly1964]

Get the F out of here. I don't know what you're saying but Ali didn't use the bobbing and weaving style. Patterson had the best head movement ever, untill Tyson came along. In his prime, he moved his head like no one else has ever done.

Tyson had the best head movement ever, and he has the fastest hands p4p, and maybe even quickest feet p4p.

wrong. ali sometimes stood there and just moved his head out of the way of punches at blinding speed!

[butterfly1964]

If does matter if you think about it. a 218 man who's only 5,11(Some people say he was around 5,10) is a very strong man. He's build huge at that size and that makes him faster p4p. Ali was pretty much ripped, he was not buffed. And he was very tall. Do the math.

but height has nothing to do with it. it doesn't matter how strong you look, it mattrs how strong you are, and ali's muscle mass was definetely comparable to tyson's.

[BKM-]

but height has nothing to do with it. it doesn't matter how strong you look, it mattrs how strong you are, and ali's muscle mass was definetely comparable to tyson's.

Thank you for prooving my point. You just said a few posts above that the size of Ali's arms could have been the same as Tyson if they were the same size. Size DOES matter.

[butterfly1964]

Thank you for prooving my point. You just said a few posts above that the size of Ali's arms could have been the same as Tyson if they were the same size. Size DOES matter.

no, i didn't say that. i said that since ali's arms are aot longer than tyson's arms, then they probably have the same mass.

[M26]

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Mike Tyson
3. Joe Louis/Floyd Patterson