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  • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
    Like I said I don't remember which punch was Marciano's "best punch"

    He was famous for having a great right hand (suzie Q) but I think his "best punch" was the hook. I do know whatever punch was Marciano's best was Ali's hardest to block. Bert Sugar told me on a documentary on the Super Fight DVD.
    Look, all I know is that Ali is most vulnerable to a left hook, and he is least vulnerable to a right cross. You might know what was Rocky's best punch more than me, so I won't argue that. But from what I hear, Marciano's best punch was his right hand (suzie q), and Ali is extremely hard to hit with right hands.

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    • Originally posted by Hard Boiled HK
      Why won't you give reasons for the first half of my post?
      lol, because its been said so many times. But Marcianofan pretty much posted what I would have.

      Originally posted by Hard Boiled HK
      You are saying George Foreman is "slow, ******, and predictable." First of all, based on what evidence can you call him ******?
      He fell for the rope-a-dope (Ali said something like: Hes a dope if he follows me to the ropes!) tactic and punched himself out.
      Originally posted by Hard Boiled HK
      And second, according to your statement about Foreman, you are saying he is not one of the greatest boxers of all time. Any boxing historian consider Foreman one of the top ten greatest HW boxer of all time. Now, how can one of the greatest be "slow, ******, and predictable"?
      I was exaggerating and using your logic from when you implied Marciano didn't fight strong opposition. I do think he is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. He is slow, and in his physical prime he was predictable and not the most intelligent fighter out there. But his power and good chin/heart made him great.
      Last edited by Brockton Lip; 06-12-2006, 10:56 PM.

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      • Look, all I know is that Ali is most vulnerable to a left hook, and he is least vulnerable to a right cross. You might know what was Rocky's best punch more than me, so I won't argue that. But from what I hear, Marciano's best punch was his right hand (suzie q), and Ali is extremely hard to hit with right hands.
        very true. Cooper and Frazier had some of the meanest left hooks of all time and they sent Ali to the canvas. Liston, Foreman, Shavers and Quarry couldn't put Ali down with their rights, and Foreman, Liston and Shavers had the hardest rights in history!

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        • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
          Foreman is actually pretty predictable because he doesn't have KO Power in both hands, he has hard punching power in both hands but his KO punch is his right hand so everything tended to revolve around that.

          So an expiernced Journeyman could probably pick off his punches, problem is, ok great you know what punches he's going to throw but your still going to get hit and KO'd by them.
          I disagree. Foreman definately had KO power in both hands. And it's not as simple as picking off his punches, those punches went THROUGH your guard. I think people need to watch more of Foreman. They watch his fight with Ali, in which he was made to look bad because of the way Ali fought, and think he was a lumbering wild swinger. At times, he certainly was wild. However, he had an excellent jab, and could box fairly well.

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          • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
            Foreman is actually pretty predictable because he doesn't have KO Power in both hands, he has hard punching power in both hands but his KO punch is his right hand so everything tended to revolve around that.

            So an expiernced Journeyman could probably pick off his punches, problem is, ok great you know what punches he's going to throw but your still going to get hit and KO'd by them.
            Ah no, he has Ko power in both hands and his left hook was probably the better punch. Left hook and his uppercut.

            Marcianos best punch was definately the short right cross. His left hook was more of a heavy, bludgeoning blow. Ali was very hard to tag with a right hand.

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            • Foreman is actually pretty predictable because he doesn't have KO Power in both hands
              Foreman definatly has KO in both hands.

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