If Rocky Marciano would of..........

[micky_knox]

if Rocky Marciano would of lived up to today you think he would of had more stardom and been more recognized as a legend than ali.
maybe he even would of been more liked than ali

he would have as much stardom as ali.
he would have been well liked because he was a nice guy........
hes been dead a long time now and people still love him

[butterfly1964]

IMO Rocky's the best inside fighter, and also Rocky had an easier time getting inside on somebody. Whereas Liston was the one at the disadvantage style wise Marciano being a swarmer/slugger would have the advantage, plus Marciano's best punch was the one Ali was most sespetible to, Right Hook (I believe it was).

Actually, it was a left hook, and ali could block a right hand pretty easily, that's why marciano would have a tough time hitting him.

[Hard Boiled HK]

he beat 3 great ezzard charles, archie moore, and jersey joe walcott?

Marciano fought the once-retired 37 years old Joe Louis, the twice-retired 38 year old Joe Walcott, 42 year old Archie Moore, and the washed-up 34 year old Ezzard Charles. In other words, he beat them when they were way past their game, and are not considered "strong oppositions" when Marciano fought them.

Edit: Ali fought a 27 year old Joe Fraizer and a 25 year old George Foreman.

In comparison, who faced stronger oppositions?

[Brockton Lip]

Marciano fought the once-retired 37 years old Joe Louis, the twice-retired 38 year old Joe Walcott, 42 year old Archie Moore, and the washed-up 34 year old Ezzard Charles. In other words, he beat them when they were way past their game, and are not considered "strong oppositions" when Marciano fought them.

Edit: Ali fought a 27 year old Joe Fraizer and a 25 year old George Foreman.

In comparison, who faced stronger oppositions?

This post is ******.
I won't even give reasons for the first half of your post; I don't need to. But I will post now, using your logic:
Frazier beat Ali and when he lost, he was half blind already.
Foreman was slow, ******, and predictable.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Marciano fought the once-retired 37 years old Joe Louis, the twice-retired 38 year old Joe Walcott, 42 year old Archie Moore, and the washed-up 34 year old Ezzard Charles. In other words, he beat them when they were way past their game, and are not considered "strong oppositions" when Marciano fought them.

Edit: Ali fought a 27 year old Joe Fraizer and a 25 year old George Foreman.

In comparison, who faced stronger oppositions?

Jersey Joe Walcott was prime in the title fight with Marciano, not only was he in the best condition of his life but that was the best fight of his life.

Joe Louis though once retired and just a shell of his former self was still a very dangerous contender. He only lost I think 2 or 3 times during his comeback.

I'm not gunna say Archie Moore was prime because Archie Moore's best years were as a Light Heavyweight but just like Joe Louis, Moore was a very dangerous contender who could easily KO you. Even at his age he was still very strong and capable of KO'ing a fighter.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Actually, it was a left hook, and ali could block a right hand pretty easily, that's why marciano would have a tough time hitting him.

Like I said I don't remember which punch was Marciano's "best punch"

He was famous for having a great right hand (suzie Q) but I think his "best punch" was the hook. I do know whatever punch was Marciano's best was Ali's hardest to block. Bert Sugar told me on a documentary on the Super Fight DVD.

[Hard Boiled HK]

This post is ******.
I won't even give reasons for the first half of your post; I don't need to. But I will post now, using your logic:
Frazier beat Ali and when he lost, he was half blind already.
Foreman was slow, ******, and predictable.

Why won't you give reasons for the first half of my post?

Frazier was already half blind already when he fought Ali the second time around? Let's not exaggerate here. If he was half blind by the 2nd fight his eyes must be much worse when he fought Ali the 3rd time around. The beating he gave Ali was one of the worst ever. If he can do that while being at least half blind, then he must be the greatest ever. The Frazier of the Ali fights are much better than those old men Marciano fought.

You are saying George Foreman is "slow, ******, and predictable." First of all, based on what evidence can you call him ******? And second, according to your statement about Foreman, you are saying he is not one of the greatest boxers of all time. Any boxing historian consider Foreman one of the top ten greatest HW boxer of all time. Now, how can one of the greatest be "slow, ******, and predictable"?

[Hard Boiled HK]

Jersey Joe Walcott was prime in the title fight with Marciano, not only was he in the best condition of his life but that was the best fight of his life.

Joe Louis though once retired and just a shell of his former self was still a very dangerous contender. He only lost I think 2 or 3 times during his comeback.

I'm not gunna say Archie Moore was prime because Archie Moore's best years were as a Light Heavyweight but just like Joe Louis, Moore was a very dangerous contender who could easily KO you. Even at his age he was still very strong and capable of KO'ing a fighter.

At least you gave an explaination and did not lie about Archie Moore being in his prime when he fought Rocky Marcinano.

BTW, you don't think George Foreman is "slow, ******, and predictable", do you?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

At least you gave an explaination and did not lie about Archie Moore being in his prime when he fought Rocky Marcinano.

BTW, you don't think George Foreman is "slow, ******, and predictable", do you?

Foreman is actually pretty predictable because he doesn't have KO Power in both hands, he has hard punching power in both hands but his KO punch is his right hand so everything tended to revolve around that.

So an expiernced Journeyman could probably pick off his punches, problem is, ok great you know what punches he's going to throw but your still going to get hit and KO'd by them.

[Hard Boiled HK]

Fair enough. But honestly, do you really think a 37 years old Joe Louis, a 38 year old Joe Walcott, and a 42 year old Archie Moore are more dangerous than a 25 year old George Foreman and a 27 year old Joe Frazier?