Michael Moorer - Light heavyweight

[Anthony342]

Ok just seem to remember he started out at light heavy, but could be wrong.

Nope, started out at cruiser.

[beez721]

Nope, started out at cruiser.

yep 190ish

[Emon723]

Moorer will destroy Virgil Hill, a unification fight was talk about then when Hearns came to the picture, good thing Hill fought Hearns instead.

[Scott9945]

I agree with you. I remember moorer saying he literally almost had to kill himself to get to 175 and hed walk around at well over 200 lbs and just couldnt do it anymore. he was very thick and big boned for a light heavyweight. hell,, he wore size 15 boots! 175 was most definitely an unnatural weight for moorer

That was my point, thank you. I never meant it as a snub to Moorer, who I actually liked as a fighter and usually rooted for.

[Suckmedry]

Ok just seem to remember he started out at light heavy, but could be wrong.

I think he was like 177 for his debut or something, so technically not but he probably could have made the weight for a very brief time

[billeau2]

That was my point, thank you. I never meant it as a snub to Moorer, who I actually liked as a fighter and usually rooted for.

I understand what you are trying to say I just do not think it is relevant. If we have a discussion about a fighter, lets say Roy Jones, and say that at a particular weight HE FOUGHT AT, he is unbeatable...nobody would preface that with "well but he is not this size naturally." Nobody considers that. When a fighter makes the weight and fights at that weight they made the weight.

Add to that fact that we are talking about nebulous divisions that almost function like generic catchweights....well all cruisers and lite heavies who are good would attack the heavyweight division if given a chance. Again, look at the champs at these weight classes, unless the heavyweight division was really stacked and the champ at light heavy/cruiser was not that strong, the individual fighter will fight for the heavyweight crown.

So to say that Moorer being naturally big makes him less of a fighter in this class, or to say that he fought minimally (not true actually) means very little when evaluating his talent fighting at that weight against the likes of Hiolyfield, Spinks, etc....at cruiser or light heavy. All it means is that he was at the time a big cruiser/lite heavy. YOu have to remember that ALL these guys fought heavy eventually anyway.

[SBleeder]

Nope, started out at cruiser.

His first fight was at LHW.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:2707

[Scott9945]

I understand what you are trying to say I just do not think it is relevant. If we have a discussion about a fighter, lets say Roy Jones, and say that at a particular weight HE FOUGHT AT, he is unbeatable...nobody would preface that with "well but he is not this size naturally." Nobody considers that. When a fighter makes the weight and fights at that weight they made the weight.

Add to that fact that we are talking about nebulous divisions that almost function like generic catchweights....well all cruisers and lite heavies who are good would attack the heavyweight division if given a chance. Again, look at the champs at these weight classes, unless the heavyweight division was really stacked and the champ at light heavy/cruiser was not that strong, the individual fighter will fight for the heavyweight crown.

So to say that Moorer being naturally big makes him less of a fighter in this class, or to say that he fought minimally (not true actually) means very little when evaluating his talent fighting at that weight against the likes of Hiolyfield, Spinks, etc....at cruiser or light heavy. All it means is that he was at the time a big cruiser/lite heavy. YOu have to remember that ALL these guys fought heavy eventually anyway.

Well I agree that you can either make weight or you can't. But my original point in this thread was that Moorer's resume at 175 was very weak and any comparison to ATG's in that class is purely speculation. Someone else posted here that Virgil Hill was lucky that he fought Hearns instead of Moorer, which (other than the money) makes no sense to me since Hill lost. I certainly don't take it as a given that Moorer would beat Hill any worse or easier, if at all.

[billeau2]

Well I agree that you can either make weight or you can't. But my original point in this thread was that Moorer's resume at 175 was very weak and any comparison to ATG's in that class is purely speculation. Someone else posted here that Virgil Hill was lucky that he fought Hearns instead of Moorer, which (other than the money) makes no sense to me since Hill lost. I certainly don't take it as a given that Moorer would beat Hill any worse or easier, if at all.

Fair enough

[Rockin']

I talked to my friend, Moorer did move up in weight because of difficulty making the Light Heavy limit. "Michael was a big boy" is what he told me, amongst other things.