How Ring Magazine lost it's final credibility.

[Holywarrior]

RING mag can always be devalued though. Most of them are spot on.

[baCCaT]

What does TBR stand for though? And if their rankings are more credible, shouldn't they be the ones giving out title belts like The Ring does?

http://www.tbrb.org/

[Anthony342]

Yeah, I was right, I DID have it bookmarked, thanks. And I hope it does gain traction so that they can start making and giving deserving boxers title belts and be the only legit title belts, like The Ring was more like in the past.

[Ben Bolt]

Under the new leadership of Michael Rosenthal, I do find a few changes that is not of my liking.
But, some people here are too quick to judge, with less or none substance in their reflections. "GBP own The Ring so it must have turned corrupt" ain't good enough as an argument.

The Ring still remains a credible voice. While the GBP are investing money in it, they certainly know it would be suicide trying to interfere with the mag's long history of independant journalism.

[billeau2]

Under the new leadership of Michael Rosenthal, I do find a few changes that is not of my liking.
But, some people here are too quick to judge, with less or none substance in their reflections. "GBP own The Ring so it must have turned corrupt" ain't good enough as an argument.

The Ring still remains a credible voice. While the GBP are investing money in it, they certainly know it would be suicide trying to interfere with the mag's long history of independant journalism.

Ben the concept of independent journalism is one of those things like god33's "facts that he believes in".....I.e. an oximorone. I think you will find that at times integrity can be a goal and there will be individuals who have the character to see this through. There is also the matter of scope....i.e. when a story, or a piece is sufficiently encompassing it can often present information in a fashion where different ideologies are represented intelligently. One problem that all publications have though, and ring is no exception, is that with the age of the internet comes the age of the blurb. people don't have the attention span to read through things intelligently.

Rankings and other such things are particularly subject to these issues. Rankings present a very condensed version of what is supposed to be better and worse...Naturally this invites a biase!

[Ben Bolt]

Actually, I find the magazines I regularly read have turned better since the arrival of internet. Because their only way to compete with the fast internet news are to provide with deeper, analyzing articles.
During the later years, I've learned quite a lot from the mags' writings I wasn't aware of before.

[Scott9945]

Ben the concept of independent journalism is one of those things like god33's "facts that he believes in".....I.e. an oximorone. I think you will find that at times integrity can be a goal and there will be individuals who have the character to see this through. There is also the matter of scope....i.e. when a story, or a piece is sufficiently encompassing it can often present information in a fashion where different ideologies are represented intelligently. One problem that all publications have though, and ring is no exception, is that with the age of the internet comes the age of the blurb. people don't have the attention span to read through things intelligently.

Rankings and other such things are particularly subject to these issues. Rankings present a very condensed version of what is supposed to be better and worse...Naturally this invites a biase!

I bet if Don King had bought Ring there wouldn't be nearly this much benefit of the doubt given. But any boxing promoter owning a boxing magazine is as much of a conflict of interest as possible. I really don't understand why some people won't concede that. What if Al Haymon bought Ring Magazine?

[billeau2]

Actually, I find the magazines I regularly read have turned better since the arrival of internet. Because their only way to compete with the fast internet news are to provide with deeper, analyzing articles.
During the later years, I've learned quite a lot from the mags' writings I wasn't aware of before.

Yeah it can work both ways.... what I do not like is that some of the magazines like Scientific American have really quite obviously "dumbed down." I travel a bit and pick this mag up, I have read it since being a kid of 13 and there are press releases and shore articles because this generation does not have the attention span. i notice it in other publications also, and it scares me...but this is indeed my biase. The truth is that most kids today are capable of being informed of a way that has never been possible. Its just the depth of critical analysis that i feel suffers at times

[billeau2]

I bet if Don King had bought Ring there wouldn't be nearly this much benefit of the doubt given. But any boxing promoter owning a boxing magazine is as much of a conflict of interest as possible. I really don't understand why some people won't concede that. What if Al Haymon bought Ring Magazine?

You want a really scary answer to that question? About 15 years ago the biggest media conglomerate in the world started buying up these hip daly papers in the more special cities in America. I am fortunate enough to be in Washington San Francisco New York and I live in Baltimore presently.... Well it started with what was my favorite paper "the Village Voice". Recently as of about a few years ago the Baltimore City Paper was bought.....Now Scott: do you think the content changed? sometimes subtley, (like with the city paper) sometimes overtly like when the Voice became a piece of crap not fit for dog turds.

The Ruppert Murdoch empire owns most relevant publishing houses...Reutors, etc. because smart and riich people have learned that the biases you speak of are exactly why they should own the 'ring magazines' of the world. And it used to be the major papers....now? papers like Ring magazine, the daily's etc are being used to shape and shift public opinion.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Ring has had ghost guerrero, adrian broner, canelo as p4p guys... That is when i lost all credibility with them...

But honestly, all rankings seem to either be biased, or limited in scope and dont fully encompass the whole world