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  • #11
    Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
    I'm not convinced GGG has all time great power at all, he hit some guys a lot who weren't very durable and they ended up being ref stoppages, I think his power is overrated.
    Macklin was no ref stoppage,,,,

    Rosado, and ouma are very durable guys.... Rosado has some quick stoppages on his resume but that was when he wasn't getting full training camps and still working a job and being thrown in with guys like angulo...

    Tyson didn't stop everyone on his terror in the mid 80s, neither did Duran and hearns,,,

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    • #12
      Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
      I'm not convinced GGG has all time great power at all, he hit some guys a lot who weren't very durable and they ended up being ref stoppages, I think his power is overrated.
      not surprised you would say this with a de****able racist dolt like malcolm x in your avatar. your black panther post are very transparent. A shame really.

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      • #13
        Andre Ward hit like cruiserweight

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          Macklin was no ref stoppage,,,,

          Rosado, and ouma are very durable guys.... Rosado has some quick stoppages on his resume but that was when he wasn't getting full training camps and still working a job and being thrown in with guys like angulo...

          Tyson didn't stop everyone on his terror in the mid 80s, neither did Duran and hearns,,,
          Macklin isn't durable whatsoever, hes the same dude that planked against Moore. Rosado certainly isn't durable and a washed-up Ouma isnt durable either.

          No they didn't but they'd definitely knock out that caliber of fighter provided they were able to land like Golovkin was.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
            Macklin isn't durable whatsoever, hes the same dude that planked against Moore. Rosado certainly isn't durable and a washed-up Ouma isnt durable either.

            No they didn't but they'd definitely knock out that caliber of fighter provided they were able to land like Golovkin was.
            Macklin has been in big title fights and proved pretty durable IMO,,

            Remind me again who stopped and dropped rosado with a full training camp
            And who has ever stopped ouma...

            Tillis, green Tyson couldn't stop and they are about the same level as ggg opponents...

            Not everyone is gonna be Oliver McCall, but I think you have a very harsh opinion on ggg power... If he stops Chavez jr then what will U think, that Chavez is a bum

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              Yes I have heard that to..he is still unproven so I hate to give him high praise but he does seem to be a once in a generation puncher,
              Heavy handed, good punching technique, plus look at the amateurs when he beat Andy lee, bute, dirrell, despaigne

              Plus the story of him ko'ing kovolev in sparring..

              I think if ggg stops Chavez it will remove all doubt if he is legit or not, because Chavez isn't the best, but he does have his dad's chin
              Say what???

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                Macklin has been in big title fights and proved pretty durable IMO,,

                Remind me again who stopped and dropped rosado with a full training camp
                And who has ever stopped ouma...

                Tillis, green Tyson couldn't stop and they are about the same level as ggg opponents...

                Not everyone is gonna be Oliver McCall, but I think you have a very harsh opinion on ggg power... If he stops Chavez jr then what will U think, that Chavez is a bum
                He got iced by a domestic level fighter in his prime at 154, people were literally worried for his life after that, he has never been durable.

                Not being stopped doesn't mean you have good punch resistance especially if you are shot by that point, shall we call Holmes a once in a lifetime puncher since Ali had never been stopped before?

                Do you really think if the historically great punchers at middleweight were touching Rosado at will like GGG was they wouldn't KHTFO?

                Green was pretty durable even if he wasnt a good fighter and Tyson had trouble finding Tillis. Furthermore Tyson and Duran also have knockouts and against much better and durable opponents then GGG has faced.

                He is a hard puncher for sure but he's not an all time puncher and knocking out crappy Chavez won't change that, he's literally going to be hitting Chavez with everything I will be surprised if he doesn't stop him.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by MrRolltide91 View Post
                  Say what???
                  Yes, there is a story going around about the 2 sparring sessions..

                  I know for a fact they are good friends and train together on occassion,, That i know for sure 100%

                  Rumor has it that GGG dropped kovolev, i cant remember if it was a body shot, or a chin shot, but word is that GGG put it on him and laid him out...
                  Take it for a grain of salt,,

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
                    He got iced by a domestic level fighter in his prime at 154, people were literally worried for his life after that, he has never been durable.

                    Not being stopped doesn't mean you have good punch resistance especially if you are shot by that point, shall we call Holmes a once in a lifetime puncher since Ali had never been stopped before?

                    Do you really think if the historically great punchers at middleweight were touching Rosado at will like GGG was they wouldn't KHTFO?

                    Green was pretty durable even if he wasnt a good fighter and Tyson had trouble finding Tillis. Furthermore Tyson and Duran also have knockouts and against much better and durable opponents then GGG has faced.

                    He is a hard puncher for sure but he's not an all time puncher and knocking out crappy Chavez won't change that, he's literally going to be hitting Chavez with everything I will be surprised if he doesn't stop him.
                    Didnt middleweights use smaller gloves years ago, and get changed to today's current size in the 80s around the time they switched to 12 instead of 15 rounds... I think thats why you dont see as many pure power punchers as you did say in the 50s or 60s....

                    Maybe i overstated that GGG is a historic puncher, but currently in this era i think he is the best puncher since manny or prime tito

                    Who in today's era would you consider to be the biggest puncher in the lower weights.. randall bailey can punch but thats about the only guy i can think of

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                      Didnt middleweights use smaller gloves years ago, and get changed to today's current size in the 80s around the time they switched to 12 instead of 15 rounds... I think thats why you dont see as many pure power punchers as you did say in the 50s or 60s....

                      Maybe i overstated that GGG is a historic puncher, but currently in this era i think he is the best puncher since manny or prime tito

                      Who in today's era would you consider to be the biggest puncher in the lower weights.. randall bailey can punch but thats about the only guy i can think of
                      I'm not entirely sure, time will tell, seems to be a few decent punchers but all time great punchers don't come around often.

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