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  • #41
    The best defensive fighter of the 2000's but not all time because of selective matchmaking. In other era's he would be good, not great.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Japanese Boxing View Post
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXmG5q-yEE

      Floyd doesn't have the resume to warrant Greatest Defensive fighter of all time.
      Pep got his face and body smashed in by Saddler on four different occasions. Mayweather hasn't suffered the same fate and he hasn't needed to clinch to the degree that Pep did to be a defensive wizard. Mayweather's resume is also more impressive than Pep's.

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      • #43
        I prefer Pernell Whitaker in the greatest defensive fighter stakes

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        • #44
          IMO...he dont deserve to be in the rankings of great fighter. Simply because great fighter fight great fighters...without excuses! Any excuses!!!!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Welsh Jon View Post
            I prefer Pernell Whitaker in the greatest defensive fighter stakes
            He's certainly the best that I've seen live, with no disrespect to Floyd's brilliant defensive skills.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by lets rumble View Post
              gotta go down as the greatest defensive fighter of all time and a master craftsman .
              next three fights after may 3 could land him at number 1 greatest of all depending on who he fights
              damn...im out of Karma. I will Red k you tomorrow!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Humean View Post
                Pep got his face and body smashed in by Saddler on four different occasions. Mayweather hasn't suffered the same fate and he hasn't needed to clinch to the degree that Pep did to be a defensive wizard. Mayweather's resume is also more impressive than Pep's.
                Holy ****.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Welsh Jon View Post
                  I prefer Pernell Whitaker in the greatest defensive fighter stakes
                  One important distinction is that Whitaker created offensive opportunities with hi defense, thats how incredible he was. mayweather counters fabulously but it is usually, now a days, with one punch. Whitaker would make guys go off balance and fall into a counter.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Japanese Boxing View Post
                    Holy ****.
                    Humean is our collective Id....you know the part of you that wants to say that Mayorga is the best middle weight of all time because he beat all six of Lewis' heads at the same time? yeah that Pep was a real dry humper....

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by billeau2
                      One important distinction is that Whitaker created offensive opportunities with hi defense, thats how incredible he was. mayweather counters fabulously but it is usually, now a days, with one punch. Whitaker would make guys go off balance and fall into a counter.
                      I dont think there is a distinction. He doesnt throw as many punches but he definitely sets up his offense with his defense.

                      Genaro, Chavez, Judah, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Canelo. Examples all across his career of offense set up by defense against top competition.

                      I wont insult Pea by adding Gatti, Bruselles, N'dou and Corley as top competition, but those were defensive beatdowns as well.


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