Floyd mayweather Jr

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Floyd would have been higher if he landed a few more big name fights,,,

he didnt have to land all these fights, but 2 or 3 would have greatly enhanced his legacy

Prince naseem at 130
casamoyer at 130 or 135
johnston at 135
spadafora at 135
freitas at 135
tsyzu at 140
cotto in 08
shane in 07

Add any 2 of those fights on his resume and his legacy would be much better

Manny from 09-12 would have been a career defining fight similar to ali-frazier, SRL-hearns or hagler

floyd's resume at 135 and 140 is very shallow

I dont really blame him for fights not getting done pre-oscar fight since floyd was a huge risk and was not yet a star, but since the oscar fight he has been the #1 star and should have been able to make any fight he wanted, just like oscar, tyson, SRL, ali, had done before him, especially since he is a free agent and his own boss.. Being the #1 p4p plus the #1 money draw, gives floyd complete control since 07, yet he has not seeked out the big fights and challenges like guys before him did,,, Oscar fought unbeaten and prime ike, tito, shane in a matter of 16 months, same thing with SRL when he fought benetiz, duran, hearns in about 2 years, ali had frazier, foreman, norton in a 2 year span,, floyd over 2 years has given us canelo, ghost, maidana,,,, Only the canelo fight can be seen as a legit big fight since 07...... That has hurt his legacy more than anything

[RubenSonny]

I've not attempted to change his legacy... Just said what it is
Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler are 4 of the elite, and I'm not dis*****g that.
But to suggest Mayweather hasn't faced anyone better than Ayub Kalule, is a little over the top don't you think.. JMM, DLH, Cotto and Canelo, aren't as great, but are all a bit better than the Ugandan imo..
Fundamentally however, nobody knows the full extent of Floyd's legacy just yet..
For all we know, he could move up again, and start whooping middleweights.. But in the meantime, there's Khan, Maidana. or the winner of Bradley Pacquiao II for him to think about.. Suppose we'll just have to wait and see....
Guys like GGG emerging, could make things interesting.... But with his radar like defence, I just can't see anyone hitting him precisely and accurately.. Has faced his fair share of punchers, Corrales and Ndou in particular.. Not quite in the same power league as Hearns, who I'm certain was responsible for Leonard's eye surgery...
Even at 36, I'm predicting Floyd, to stay healthy, and be even greater than SRL...

Red K me if I'm wrong lol

I said he hasn't beaten many guys as good as Kalule not none at all. Cotton and DLH would have lost to Kalule most likely, the jury is still out on Canelo but I'm not sure he would have been good enough either.

N'dou knocked out a heap of bums he can't be credited as a great puncher.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

kalule is a much better fighter than canelo,,,,

Hatton, oscar, cotto wins are probably on par with kalule when you factor in that oscar and cotto were past their best days....

floyd has alot of kalule level wins, ie hatton, corrales, cotto, oscar
Castillo i would rank slightly ahead of kalule

But in the end, Kalule isnt even ever mentioned as a top SRL win, and yet its comparable to every floyd win
Just shows how great of a resume SRL has,, his career might have been short but he beat alot of ATGs in their prime, something floyd has yet to do, let alone multiple times

[IMDAZED]

No...............

[RubenSonny]

kalule is a much better fighter than canelo,,,,

Hatton, oscar, cotto wins are probably on par with kalule when you factor in that oscar and cotto were past their best days....

floyd has alot of kalule level wins, ie hatton, corrales, cotto, oscar
Castillo i would rank slightly ahead of kalule

But in the end, Kalule isnt even ever mentioned as a top SRL win, and yet its comparable to every floyd win
Just shows how great of a resume SRL has,, his career might have been short but he beat alot of ATGs in their prime, something floyd has yet to do, let alone multiple times

Corrales and Castillo are clearly above Kalule, my point was that he doesn't have many wins better than Kalule, I didn't say anything about on the same level.

[J-champ]

At the rate he is going I can't put Mayweather above 25. A carefully planned career against fighters he knew he could beat is the main reason. The greats have overcame the odds as underdogs and couldn't pick fighters that suited them.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Corrales and Castillo are clearly above Kalule, my point was that he doesn't have many wins better than Kalule, I didn't say anything about on the same level.

Castillo is,,,, corrales was just an action fighter who could never beat another p4p boxer... He is like gatti but better,, take away his huge size advantage that he had at 130 and the the dude isn't that good...
Huge heart and power and the lower levels, but nowhere near as skilled as kalule

[El Jesus]

At the rate he is going I can't put Mayweather above 25. A carefully planned career against fighters he knew he could beat is the main reason. The greats have overcame the odds as underdogs and couldn't pick fighters that suited them.

i laugh at this notion that mayweather is the only fighter in history to engage in matchmaking and that his whole career he only fought fights he could win. im sort of dumbfounded at this. mayweather has taken the belts off over 20 fights if i recall, i just dont see how it translates into "he only fought against guys he could beat". with all the hall of famers on his resume (gatti (lol), JMM, Hatton, De La Hoya, Castillo etc) how does translate into "oh floyd was never the underdog"

hes been the underdog once in god knows how long and he dropped that man 5 times to his first stoppage defeat, but he never overcame the odds.

bennyst had it correct in his assessment that if somehow they cant one punch mayweather into submission, its not a real fight. the man everyone reveres on here fought david diaz, joshua clottey, a shot antonio margarito and a shopworn mosley to his greatness in between taking on credible opposition (cotto/jmm).

that just doesnt make any sense.

[Japanese Boxing]

gotta go down as the greatest defensive fighter of all time and a master craftsman .
next three fights after may 3 could land him at number 1 greatest of all depending on who he fights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXmG5q-yEE

Floyd doesn't have the resume to warrant Greatest Defensive fighter of all time.

[mickey malone]

Let's just enjoy the rest of his career eh

I for one, think we're very fortunate to have him around in our lifetime..
People can pick at his resume until the cows come home, but he's pluggin on nicely in the longevity stakes