Ike Ibeabuchi VS Joe Louis

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Come on, Bill and Jer only got ko'd because they stopped moving.

That's fact joe never destroyed anybody while they were using their movement that got them where they were which were their best skills which you people leave out

Joe for a fact destroyed people who didn't move to great he never beat bill when he was using his superior movement same with jers thats a fact and you know it

Most people know jers was dominating joe and would every time no matter Joe's age
most people know joe would run through joe had he kept moving he found joe way easy to pick and move around

I know you will say its people who been beat while moving but remember you said which i know joe tech was great and people who have got beat while moving were good at hitting people while moving

Joe style wasnt great at hitting moving people they needed for a fact to be standing still or not moving to much to be hit often these are facts

Which means joe never could beat bill or jers like I told you when they were using their great movement which is why people say jers and bill won rounds and were screwed had those matches took place in 80s they would had gave those matches to both

[JAB5239]

That's fact joe never destroyed anybody while they were using their movement that got them where they were which were their best skills which you people leave out

Joe for a fact destroyed people who didn't move to great he never beat bill when he was using his superior movement same with jers thats a fact and you know it

Most people know jers was dominating joe and would every time no matter Joe's age
most people know joe would run through joe had he kept moving he found joe way easy to pick and move around

I know you will say its people who been beat while moving but remember you said which i know joe tech was great and people who have got beat while moving were good at hitting people while moving

Joe style wasnt great at hitting moving people they needed for a fact to be standing still or not moving to much to be hit often these are facts

Which means joe never could beat bill or jers like I told you when they were using their great movement which is why people say jers and bill won rounds and were screwed had those matches took place in 80s they would had gave those matches to both

They used their movement and were beat 4 time and by knockout 3. You hate the fact that Louis caught up to them and used superior timing to accomplish this because it destroys your whole argument.

[JAB5239]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...-heavies/page6 check out the last comment by cable is that all a lie cause i said the same thing in a different and have always said it cause I dont see how its wrong when it's from visual evidence like I told you which is all I use

I want you to read it all and then tell me which exact points are wrong and then tell me what's on video that proves me wrong

You like me to answer a lot of questions without answering any of mine. But hey, what the hell? Holyfield, Spinks, Frazier all small heavyweights to hold the title. Holyfield and Spinks trained up just like Louis and Marciano would. Not that it matters in the case of Louis who was head and shoulders better than 99% of all other heavyweights in history. And money, the day I take the opinion of a poster no one knows over respected historians and trainers who also watched the film or saw him live will never happen. Myself and others have already made our points and proven them. I have yet to see any evidence from you of anyone of importance in the boxing world agreeing with you.

[JAB5239]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...-heavies/page6 check out the last comment by cable is that all a lie cause i said the same thing in a different and have always said it cause I dont see how its wrong when it's from visual evidence like I told you which is all I use

I want you to read it all and then tell me which exact points are wrong and then tell me what's on video that proves me wrong

I want you to answer my question about what advancements in technique in movement and angles there have been? And how would that apply to Ike, a straight ahead volume puncher vs Louis a power puncher\counter puncher? You have shown me nothing. You have broken nothing down. You have provided no links of anyone involved in the sport agreeing with you. You got nothing!!! When you answer those question I'll be happy to destroy that weak post.

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I want you to answer my question about what advancements in technique in movement and angles there have been? And how would that apply to Ike, a straight ahead volume puncher vs Louis a power puncher\counter puncher? You have shown me nothing. You have broken nothing down. You have provided no links of anyone involved in the sport agreeing with you. You got nothing!!! When you answer those question I'll be happy to destroy that weak post.

You like me to answer a lot of questions without answering any of mine. But hey, what the hell? Holyfield, Spinks, Frazier all small heavyweights to hold the title. Holyfield and Spinks trained up just like Louis and Marciano would. Not that it matters in the case of Louis who was head and shoulders better than 99% of all other heavyweights in history. And money, the day I take the opinion of a poster no one knows over respected historians and trainers who also watched the film or saw him live will never happen. Myself and others have already made our points and proven them. I have yet to see any evidence from you of anyone of importance in the boxing world agreeing with you.

They used their movement and were beat 4 time and by knockout 3. You hate the fact that Louis caught up to them and used superior timing to accomplish this because it destroys your whole argument.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...-heavies/page6 check out the last comment by cable is that all a lie cause i said the same thing in a different way and have always said it cause I dont see how its wrong when it's from visual evidence like I told you which is all I use

I want you to read it all and then tell me which exact points are wrong and then tell me what's on video that proves me wrong

[JAB5239]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...-heavies/page6 check out the last comment by cable is that all a lie cause i said the same thing in a different way and have always said it cause I dont see how its wrong when it's from visual evidence like I told you which is all I use

I want you to read it all and then tell me which exact points are wrong and then tell me what's on video that proves me wrong

Sure, I'll be happy to. After you answer my questions. Everyone here already knows you're wrong. You won't answer my questions directly because you know you can't. Hop to it and I'll be ecstatic to tear that crappy opinion from cable apart.

[StarshipTrooper]

Well you are probably the only person on this planet who thinks any of Ike's opponents were more technically proficient than Joe Louis. I'd be happy to read some articles about this if you could post them up for us. Hell, I'd be happy to read any articles about ANY heavyweight being g more technically advanced than Louis. Post em if you got em.

The dumbazz thinks boxing's a ******** video game

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The dumbazz thinks boxing's a ******** video game

Right that dude is a dumbazz and thinks boxing is a game the thing is your talking about yourself to you crazy idiot

be a man and say it directly to him you punk

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Sure, I'll be happy to. After you answer my questions. Everyone here already knows you're wrong. You won't answer my questions directly because you know you can't. Hop to it and I'll be ecstatic to tear that crappy opinion from cable apart.

No I have been nice lately not calling you the names I usually call you people I want a answer you been avoiding to much I want a answer was the man wrong or not cause your saying thats opinion to just like you said mine was when I dont talk from opinions and I told you mutiple times I dont but you talk from crazy opinions in your messed up mind

[JAB5239]

No I have been nice lately not calling you the names I usually call you people I want a answer you been avoiding to much I want a answer was the man wrong or not cause your saying thats opinion to just like you said mine was when I dont talk from opinions and I told you mutiple times I dont but you talk from crazy opinions in your messed up mind

You've been nice and not called me names? This is the internet, do you think name calling would bother me in any way?

If you don't "talk from opinions" you should be able to answer my questions. You are avoiding the questions, it's that simple. And my "opinions" are backed of by boxing trainers, fighters, sports journalists, historians and plenty of other in this thread alone. Who are yours backed by and what are your sources? So if you want more answers from me, than you will answer my questions. If not, you can move on to a new thread to troll.