Vitali

[Weltschmerz]

Actually he did avoid (ducked) the Byrd rematch, Byrd tried to get Vitali in the ring again for years.(and I dont believe I am posting in this monstrosity of a thread again)

So all of the names you called Lennox for supposedly ducking the rematch can apply to your man Vitali also.

Your comparison of the Vitali-Byrd and Vitali-Lennox circumstances are, well, ridiculous.

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

Your comparison of the Vitali-Byrd and Vitali-Lennox circumstances are, well, ridiculous.

Really?

Did Vitali not duck the rematch?

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

Oh no never mind, I forgot they used the Klit family tag team fighting excuse.

"My brother beat him so why do I need to fight him again?"

[Weltschmerz]

Really?

Did Vitali not duck the rematch?

Why would he duck Byrd when he was beating him comfortably on points in the first fight? Vitali could just have cruised to a victory with one arm; unfortunately, the injury was too serious and dangerous. Vitali had to recover from his torn rotator cuff; he was out of the gym for 6 months after Byrd.

Moreover, Byrd lost his WBO belt to Wlad; why should Vitali have any interest in Byrd after that happened? The man had no title.

Finally, Byrd was promoted by Don King; it's well known that the Klitschko's had problems with Don King when it came to anything other than mandatory defenses. When Byrd won the IBF title from Holyfield in 2002, Vitali was already being lined up for a shot at Lewis' WBC title.

As we know, Vitali had plenty of injury problems during 2004-05 when Byrd held the IBF title; Vitali retired in 2005.

Only Vitali haters still care about the Byrd 'rematch'. German TV had no interest in Byrd anyway, after Wlad punished him in that 12 round beating.

[LacedUp]

These things fit Vitali quite well. He was very dominant, he never avoided anybody; 'exciting' is a matter of taste, but Vitali was never a 'boring' fighter I think many would agree. A KO rate of nearly 90 percent supports this. And how exactly do you describe who's the 'best ever'? Again, subjectivity comes into play.

No they don't. He has never been dominant as he has missed out on fighting against 25 top heavyweights or more in his career. Wad has been the dominant one.

I think a lot of people will struggle to find many rewatchable fights of his, of which were wins.

The best ever, beat the best. Vitali clearly hasn't.

And how about the alphabet orgs? Surely more of his opponents would have been ranked top 10 (I did not do the research, but one would assume so).

Nobody cares about the alphabet orgs.

[billeau2]

Oh no never mind, I forgot they used the Klit family tag team fighting excuse.

"My brother beat him so why do I need to fight him again?"

your talking to a guy who makes Humean look like poster of the year material. Welterklutz never lets a small thing like logical thinking get in the way of a premise.

The Klitschko management is imo the very definition of hypocracy. They tried to call lewis a ducker when both of these guys have avoided fighters who were dangerous and a possible challenge in the ring....EVEN when a loss was avenged. Take the case of Lamont Brewster....by the time Vlad fought him a second time he was hardly the fighter he once was. And when we look at a win like Shannon Briggs look at the version Lewis beat compared to the non punching version Vitali later fought.

Weltershmaltz and his ilk don't even bother to make a pretense of using rational discourse

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

Why would he duck Byrd when he was beating him comfortably on points in the first fight? Vitali could just have cruised to a victory with one arm; unfortunately, the injury was too serious and dangerous. Vitali had to recover from his torn rotator cuff; he was out of the gym for 6 months after Byrd.

Moreover, Byrd lost his WBO belt to Wlad; why should Vitali have any interest in Byrd after that happened? The man had no title.

Finally, Byrd was promoted by Don King; it's well known that the Klitschko's had problems with Don King when it came to anything other than mandatory defenses. When Byrd won the IBF title from Holyfield in 2002, Vitali was already being lined up for a shot at Lewis' WBC title.

As we know, Vitali had plenty of injury problems during 2004-05 when Byrd held the IBF title; Vitali retired in 2005.

Only Vitali haters still care about the Byrd 'rematch'. German TV had no interest in Byrd anyway, after Wlad punished him in that 12 round beating.

Exactly the Klit family excuse, and please don't get me wrong I "hate" no fighter because I am far from a kid. (Remember your in the adult section now)

And only Vitali fanboy's are still fixed on the Lewis rematch, no?

[LacedUp]

Why would he duck Byrd when he was beating him comfortably on points in the first fight? Vitali could just have cruised to a victory with one arm; unfortunately, the injury was too serious and dangerous. Vitali had to recover from his torn rotator cuff; he was out of the gym for 6 months after Byrd.

Moreover, Byrd lost his WBO belt to Wlad; why should Vitali have any interest in Byrd after that happened? The man had no title.

Finally, Byrd was promoted by Don King; it's well known that the Klitschko's had problems with Don King when it came to anything other than mandatory defenses. When Byrd won the IBF title from Holyfield in 2002, Vitali was already being lined up for a shot at Lewis' WBC title.

As we know, Vitali had plenty of injury problems during 2004-05 when Byrd held the IBF title; Vitali retired in 2005.

Only Vitali haters still care about the Byrd 'rematch'. German TV had no interest in Byrd anyway, after Wlad punished him in that 12 round beating.

Why would Vitali want a rematch with Lewis then?

According to you he cruised through all 6 rounds, comfortably up 6-0 before an elbow split open his face to end the fight.

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

your talking to a guy who makes Humean look like poster of the year material. Welterklutz never lets a small thing like logical thinking get in the way of a premise.

The Klitschko management is imo the very definition of hypocracy. They tried to call lewis a ducker when both of these guys have avoided fighters who were dangerous and a possible challenge in the ring....EVEN when a loss was avenged. Take the case of Lamont Brewster....by the time Vlad fought him a second time he was hardly the fighter he once was. And when we look at a win like Shannon Briggs look at the version Lewis beat compared to the non punching version Vitali later fought.

Weltershmaltz and his ilk don't even bother to make a pretense of using rational discourse

I know your right but sometimes it's so hard not to say a least something in the face hypocrisy.

[Welsh Jon]

Vitali deserves a lot of praise. He's the second best heavyweight boxer in his family. That's something to be proud of.