Vitali

[Weltschmerz]

Weltschmerz, you are allowed to have your opinion, but do not get rude when someone does not agree. If you wish to continue having access to this section.

My apologies. I will keep a clean fight.

[Weltschmerz]

You have to at least be the man in the division beating the best around him. Wlad doesn't have an ATG on his resume but he's beaten almost all the best available and been the best fighter in the division for the better part of a decade.when all is said and done that longevity and willingness should earn Wlad a place in the top 10 or 12. Vits missed 3 plus years, but the biggest thing that detracts from his standing is he missed fighting a lot of top fighters while he was active. In an era such as this, if you're not cleaning house you shouldn't be considered great.

Now h2h is a different story. But I've never heard of a credible person basing their all time standing on a "what if" scenario.

Define ATG.

[JAB5239]

Define ATG.

Its your thread, shouldn't YOU be defining your criteria? We already know make believe fights and paper title defenses are very important to you. What else?

[Weltschmerz]

Its your thread, shouldn't YOU be defining your criteria? We already know make believe fights and paper title defenses are very important to you. What else?

YOU claimed Vitali is not an ATG. So define.

[JAB5239]

YOU claimed Vitali is not an ATG. So define.

Kid, this is the history section. You're trolling and deflecting will not work here. If you can't back up your claims go back to NSB.

[Weltschmerz]

Kid, this is the history section. You're trolling and deflecting will not work here. If you can't back up your claims go back to NSB.

You keep avoiding my question.

[JAB5239]

You keep avoiding my question.

Its not my thread. I back up all my claims in my threads. If you're not going to do it in you're own maybe you should go back to NSB where there are far more uneducated fans that might buy your BS. As of now no one here agrees with you or can take you seriously.

[Weltschmerz]

Its not my thread. I back up all my claims in my threads. If you're not going to do it in you're own maybe you should go back to NSB where there are far more uneducated fans that might buy your BS. As of now no one here agrees with you or can take you seriously.

You still did not answer my question.

[mickey malone]

Send me some please.

Lol... But I'm sure you know who I was referring to

[Weltschmerz]

Lol... But I'm sure you know who I was referring to

Talk to me.