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  • #71
    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
    Explain why it's worse when Marciano had a better chin, knockout power in both hands as opposed to one, and was more difficult to hit. To me that sounds better.
    Explain. From what I've seen of both guys theres little evidence to suggest that Marciano was more elusive than Joe.

    Simple fact was Foreman ate up smaller fighters who came at him. This is exactly what Rock would do and he'd be butchered. If he somehow survived being knocked out cold he'd be stopped on cuts. I can't think of one scenario when the best form of Rocky beats the best form of Foreman.

    I'm interested to hear your take on it though.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Kid Achilles
      Explain why it's worse when Marciano had a better chin, knockout power in both hands as opposed to one, and was more difficult to hit. To me that sounds better.
      Personally i dont believe that rocky was more harder to hit, when watching his footage his movement looks alot slower and his bobbing and weaving doesn't look as effective, thats just my personal belief and observation. Power difference between Frazier and Marciano is pretty irrelevant in this situation, Its handspeed that will help neutralise Foreman... and Frazier definately had the edge in this. Frazier has the speed, Marciano the jaw and i can't call who would last longer. Marciano may last a little longer, but within 5 rounds i would say. Cus D'amato said that no-one would ever win a slugfest against George Foreman... Marciano only knows one way, thats forward and throwing as many punches as he can anywhere he can hit. Him being a swarmer im certain he would be decimated by an uppercut. Styles make fights, as a result Foreman Ko's Marciano within 5 rounds.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        From what I've seen of both guys theres little evidence to suggest that Marciano was more elusive than Joe.
        Marciano was different defensively. He wasn't big and kept low while leaning back a little bit. To hit him someone would have to commit themselves to it unless they were able to poke at him when he moved in.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Chum12788
          Marciano was different defensively. He wasn't big and kept low while leaning back a little bit. To hit him someone would have to commit themselves to it unless they were able to poke at him when he moved in.
          frazier was way harder to hit than marciano. his bobbing and weaving was very fast and even gave ali trouble.

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          • #75
            Young George Foreman would have been very hard to beat for anyone.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by TKOin1st
              Young George Foreman would have been very hard to beat for anyone.
              not for young ali.

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              • #77
                not for young ali.

                Young Ali was too inexperienced for someone like Foreman. Older Ali was much better for the job.

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                • #78
                  a 67 ali would deal to Foreman just because of they way Foremans style plays into his hands.... but it would never be EASY when you are fighting the most powerful, devestating puncher of all time.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
                    Young Ali was too inexperienced for someone like Foreman. Older Ali was much better for the job.
                    i'm talking about 1967 ali, not '60 clay.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by TKOin1st
                      Young George Foreman would have been very hard to beat for anyone.
                      Not for Prime Tyson who would've knocked the piss out of Foreman in the very first round!

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