Who else could take a 74 Foreman.

[oldgringo]

The only guy other than Ali that I can see standing up to Foreman is Holmes.

Holmes had just about everything neccessary to get the job done. Jab, chin, right hand, intelligence, heart, etc. I see him maybe being dropped late, but taking a very close decision of George who would tire a bit late.

All of the smallish heavyweights would be mauled by those clubbing shots Foreman threw.

[El Guapo]

why do people bring up Henry Cooper. First it was a YOUNG, naieve cassius clay, He walked INTO a right hook, that punch would drop most boxers. He wasn't at his physical peak until 66-67, and in 66 in the rematch he decimated Cooper.... Ironic isn't it? considering you were commenting on someones poor argument.

Nicely Said,
im from england like cooper, i dont care if he knocked ali down,ali finneshed him straight after just like lewis did with mccall and rahman,they dont bother me at all either, a nock down is nothing in alis records!

[El Guapo]

The only guy other than Ali that I can see standing up to Foreman is Holmes.

Holmes had just about everything neccessary to get the job done. Jab, chin, right hand, intelligence, heart, etc. I see him maybe being dropped late, but taking a very close decision of George who would tire a bit late.

All of the smallish heavyweights would be mauled by those clubbing shots Foreman threw.

whats gonna happen if he cant hit em?
(****ing hell ALI could hardly hit fraizer in that one fight and ali is alot cleaner than foreman).
so..... he would get tired like with ali and get either out pointed or k.o.ed, herbie hide could catch foreman right on the chin and i have proof that herbie could hit as good a k.o punch as foreman and thats no lie at all!!!
speed is a key fundimental against power, especially for that blind k.o. punch!

[oldgringo]

whats gonna happen if he cant hit em?
(****ing hell ALI could hardly hit fraizer in that one fight and ali is alot cleaner than foreman).
so..... he would get tired like with ali and get either out pointed or k.o.ed, herbie hide could catch foreman right on the chin and i have proof that herbie could hit as good a k.o punch as foreman and thats no lie at all!!!
speed is a key fundimental against power, especially for that blind k.o. punch!

I don't understand what you are trying to say...?

Are you saying that Foreman would knock out Holmes late? Or are you saying that Foreman couldn't catch smallish heavyweights?

Elaborate.

[El Guapo]

I don't understand what you are trying to say...?

Are you saying that Foreman would knock out Holmes late? Or are you saying that Foreman couldn't catch smallish heavyweights?

Elaborate.

im not saying he couldnt, or for that he could catch smaller heavywieghts, but there is allwasy a way to beat someone whoever they are!!
can you tell me that foreman was the best heavywieght boxer ever, other than ali?
because thats not true at all!
i meen god saik everyone who thinks noone could take foreman, REALITY CHECK, lennox COULD(not sayin would),young tyson could(not sayin would),louis could(not sayin would),marciano could(not sayin would). its called boxing with tactics and stratagie.

[oldgringo]

im not saying he couldnt, or for that he could catch smaller heavywieghts, but there is allwasy a way to beat someone whoever they are!!
can you tell me that foreman was the best heavywieght boxer ever, other than ali?
because thats not true at all!
i meen god saik everyone who thinks noone could take foreman, REALITY CHECK, lennox COULD(not sayin would),young tyson could(not sayin would),louis could(not sayin would),marciano could(not sayin would). its called boxing with tactics and stratagie.

This is true, but in many of these guys cases the strategic and sheer physical edge goes to George.

We have already seen him in against a smaller, elite heavyweight in Frazier. We all know what happened to Joe...

Tyson would get much of the same from Foreman and so would Marciano. Foreman simply clubbed smaller heavyweights who came at him. He wouldn't be afraid of Tyson, he'd have the chin to take his shots, but I don't think Tyson could do the same with George. Tysons speed and head movement would help him a little, but he'd still be put on his butt.

Louis wouldn't have the chin to stand up to a Foreman onslaught. He's just not strong enough to keep George off of him.

And to answer the last statement, I have Foreman as my 4th greatest HW ever.

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Foreman
Marciano

[BKM-]

im not saying he couldnt, or for that he could catch smaller heavywieghts, but there is allwasy a way to beat someone whoever they are!!
can you tell me that foreman was the best heavywieght boxer ever, other than ali?
because thats not true at all!
i meen god saik everyone who thinks noone could take foreman, REALITY CHECK, lennox COULD(not sayin would),young tyson could(not sayin would),louis could(not sayin would),marciano could(not sayin would). its called boxing with tactics and stratagie.

Exactly. And its not just Foreman who was seemingly invincible. No fighter ever was invincible.

[El Guapo]

im glad exige posted this in a different thread!
-CLICK HERE-
look how open he is, you cant say he wouldnt get caught good!
Karma to exige!

[oldgringo]

im glad exige posted this in a different thread!
-CLICK HERE-
look how open he is, you cant say he wouldnt get caught good!
Karma to exige!

When people caught Foreman he'd laugh at them.

[El Guapo]

When people caught Foreman he'd laugh at them.

i dont think he would laf at a clean tyson or lennox punch in their good old days(remembering that ali took him out with swift jabs/straights and half power hooks), and rocky could take a solid pasting for 15, so i think he could wear foreman down within 10 like ali did, a punch is much harder to take on the body than the head right!