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  • #21
    Originally posted by RedRum
    Louis and Dempsey would of both beaten him.
    ha! gene tuunney beat dempsey, so ali would have done worse! and louis always had trouble with movers, so ali would have him dizzy and confused. both louis and dempsey had weak chins, and ali had a strong chin, so combine all of that and you have ali knockihg both louis and dempsey into next week!

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    • #22
      Ali was NOT the perfect fighter. He had no ****ing power. Foreman has Ali on nr.7 on his top 10 heavweight list, why?, he didn't have explosive KO power.

      And, the greatest boxer of all time should probably be determined by most succesfull boxing career, therefor, JOE LOUIS WAS THE GREATEST

      Again, Ali and every single fighter EVER weren't unbeatable. NEVER EVER has there been a fighter like that. I mean they are human and can be beaten.

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      • #23
        No power?

        Man, he has a good KO %. KO'd Foreman's ass!

        Liston's...

        Ali hammered good fighters. Angelo knows boxing,not me, the genuine one, and he maintains that when Muhammad got of his feet and ******, few could **** with Ali.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by butterfly1964
          ha! gene tuunney beat dempsey, so ali would have done worse! and louis always had trouble with movers, so ali would have him dizzy and confused. both louis and dempsey had weak chins, and ali had a strong chin, so combine all of that and you have ali knockihg both louis and dempsey into next week!
          I dont think Louis had a weak chin.
          Against Schmelling he took that right hand over and over again, until he got stopped.
          He was never beaten again until after he came out of retirement.

          Ali hardly ever got hit, yet he did get KD and seriously hurt against Henry Cooper and obviously Frazier.

          Ali probably had the better chin, but not that much better.



          But i agree, i believe he was too fast, accurate and unorthadox enough to beat Louis.

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          • #25
            Also i dont know why u think Dempsy had a weak chin. With his come forward style he didnt have much of a defense and was a great champion.

            It would have ben very awkward for Ali to hit a guy who crouches so low.

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            • #26
              I give Louis and Tyson a punchers chance against Ali.

              Tyson was very quick and threw such rapid powerful combos, he might have been too strong for Ali to keep off in the first few rounds.

              Tyson would have destroyed him if it was the Ali that fought Foreman. Against the ropes, i dont see Ali being able to stand that body and head punishment.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by angelo_dundee
                No power?

                Man, he has a good KO %. KO'd Foreman's ass!

                Liston's...

                Ali hammered good fighters. Angelo knows boxing,not me, the genuine one, and he maintains that when Muhammad got of his feet and ******, few could **** with Ali.
                Sure he has some good ko's on his record. But how many of those truly displayed power punching?

                Foreman himself said that he didn't get knocked out because of his power. He was knocked down because he was cought with the 2 fastest hooks he ever received and he was out of balance. He also said he should've gotten up from that knock down. Something had to do with his corner.

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                • #28
                  I think someone who still whups everyones ass even though they apparently lack KO power, is a greater fighter than someone who clubs their way to success!

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                  • #29
                    All I know is that Ali Ko'd plenty of cats.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Yaman
                      Ali was NOT the perfect fighter. He had no ****ing power. Foreman has Ali on nr.7 on his top 10 heavweight list, why?, he didn't have explosive KO power.

                      And, the greatest boxer of all time should probably be determined by most succesfull boxing career, therefor, JOE LOUIS WAS THE GREATEST

                      Again, Ali and every single fighter EVER weren't unbeatable. NEVER EVER has there been a fighter like that. I mean they are human and can be beaten.
                      yeah, tell that to cleveland williams, zora folley, floyd patterson, and jerry quarry. better yet, tell that to mostly everyone he fought.

                      ali wasn't a one punch artist, but when he was flatfooted, he hit very hard. his power is the most underrated in history.

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