Cus D Amato the greatest and smartest boxing trainer in history?

[greeh]

From my limited knowlege, other famous trainers have tended to be lucky to get the character that makes for a champion in their best boxer.

But Cus he makes the kid a champion, and if you break down Tysons style it is extremely clever and orgininal in design, no other trainers really created anything new in their fighters styles, it had all been done before no new inovations.

Again I have limited knowlege here but what do you think?

Ignacio Beristain have trained Gilberto Roman, Juan Manuel Marquez, Rafael Marquez and Daniel Zaragoza from scratch. And if you have watched a lot of Beristains fighthers, you will notice that many, if not all, have much in common style wise.

/greeh

[Daddy T]

From my limited knowlege, other famous trainers have tended to be lucky to get the character that makes for a champion in their best boxer.

But Cus he makes the kid a champion, and if you break down Tysons style it is extremely clever and orgininal in design, no other trainers really created anything new in their fighters styles, it had all been done before no new inovations.

Again I have limited knowlege here but what do you think?

He was a genius who understood the psychology of boxers better than anybody else.

[rightsideup]

Are you serious? Better than any CW in the division?

Modern CW's are fitter, faster and stronger than ANY of the comparable level sub200 opponents back in Floyd's day.

Even just the fact they have to make weight unlike their predecessors which indirectly limits their heights to the most effective for their weight and forces them be in top shape and stripped of any fat without even mentioning modern training.

Imagine what would happen if the illustrious Floyd Patterson met Roy Jones Junior??? He would get absolutely obliterated!

I agree Roy Jones is a very good fighter but Floyd is way better than you give him credit for he lost to only the best of his era and beat many a good fighter. Please do not discredit his legacy.

[rightsideup]

Al Silvani and Chicky Ferrara should be mentioned in any discussion of great trainers.

[Anthony342]

Instead of D'Amato, I might train with Dundee or Stewart if I were a fighter and could train with anyone or any era, possibly Ray Arcel. What about you guys?

[rightsideup]

Instead of D'Amato, I might train with Dundee or Stewart if I were a fighter and could train with anyone or any era, possibly Ray Arcel. What about you guys?

I think your choices are excellent.

[Mr Gruber]

I do like Cus' training style, but as others here have pointed out, that style seems tailored to certain fighters. It's definitely a strong accolade to have honed the 2 youngest HW champions. I wouldn't say he's the greatest though. There's other trainers who had more fighters that accumulated more accomplishments over time.

[Scott9945]

Instead of D'Amato, I might train with Dundee or Stewart if I were a fighter and could train with anyone or any era, possibly Ray Arcel. What about you guys?

An underrated trainer who I really like is Joe Goossen. If he got the type of talent that Dundee did then he would be way more famous.

The last trainer I would ever use is Teddy Atlas. He knows more than most trainers, but is an egomaniac and a total control freak.

[- Ram Raid -]

D'Amato also possessed an unhealthy level of suspision that often grew into outright paranoia. This had a negative influence on both Patterson and Tyson, but to what degree it's difficult to know.

His personal crusade against MSG, the International Boxing Club, Jim Norris and Frankie Carbo meant that a lot of his fighters wouldn't get the fights they wanted. Patterson left him and Torres had to change manager to get his title shot. A few other promising careers dried up.

From 1959 he didn't hold a managers license or work the corner of any of his fighters. He had his managers and seconds license revoked after it was alleged that he brought in Fat Tony Salerno as a money man for a proposed Patterson-Johansson rematch.

[Ray Corso]

Theres a very dangerous game within the game outside the ring!! Ray.