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  • #11
    And Halls of Fame, I've gone through the same thing with TV show collectors. For a year or two, I was looking for a show, a guy that ran a website dedicated to that show wouldn't share them. Luckily, I found a guy on IMDB that had it. Also some people on another message board had some rare video of a band I liked and again, they wouldn''t share. They could've at least put it on youtube or something.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by rightsideup View Post
      they bought the Jacob's Clayton collection and have basically put it in moth balls.
      hopefully they're not lost.


      has anyone tried looking for radio broadcasts of fights of greb? i sent an email to a pittsburgh radio station that supposedly has been around since the time of greb, but they never got back at me.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by AntonTheMeh View Post
        didn't espn buy someone's fight collection? i remember hearing, might have been here actually, where they basically remastered some fights by ali, marciano, louis and robinson and did nothing else with the other fights.
        See the Jacobs thread still on page of this section.

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        • #14
          It's the illuminati... Duh

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          • #15
            I remember hearing somewhere that all fight footage of his was destroyed in a house fire, although I'm not sure I believe that.

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            • #16
              I don't doubt that there is footage of at least one or two Greb fights.....somewhere. But there are the following issues:

              1) The decline in image quality if the film were not professionally preserved by an owner aware of their worth. If for example they were in an attic or university vault, they would surely be unwatchable by now.

              2) No one has actually said they have come across the reels of a Greb fight, but claimed they were unwatchable. At least the myth would be dispelled if a duff reel or several turned up....but they never have.

              3) I once read that there was a private showing of one of his fights by a collector in the late 70s......but that the footage was very grainy even then.

              4) Jimmy Jacobs did come across a listing in his own collection for one of the Tunney fights, but the film was strangely absent.

              5) If there was someone who had the films.....and knew they had the films, they'd certainly be worth a lot. Interest in Greb has never been higher. Even digital transfer rights/documentary making could make the owner a pretty penny. That no one has owned up yet, is not a brilliant sign.

              6) Could an owner simply be a colossal fan who would be mortified at releasing the footage to find that it takes away from his legend? There is a real chance that he might not look that impressive on film. I'm sorry to say that the training footage really didn't do him any favours. With the absence of fight film his legend is almost mythic.

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              • #17
                anybody know the details of that training footage?

                who took it, how it was stored, what kind of film was it on, etc?

                if that film exists the possibility that others, in similar quality, are out there.


                i tend to think that footage would either be possessed unknowingly or destroyed unknowingly. it really seems farfetched to think that a single collector would be sitting on a fight sample.

                surely you'd have in insured, etc. somebody who knows a bunch about historic fight footage would have to appraise it. would he keep his mouth shut?

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                • #18
                  I imagine everybody seen the quick time videos that were going around the web several years ago. They were videos of Greb. They were named "Greb Jumps Rope" and "Greb signs contract" and things like that. I have them some where. They were in excellent shape for their age.

                  http://www.harrygreb.com/sparringvideopage.html

                  On the site above just right click the video links and save if you want footage of Greb. They are "MOV" file which opens in quicktime but you can watch them with VLC player.

                  Last edited by TBear; 06-15-2013, 12:39 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                    I don't doubt that there is footage of at least one or two Greb fights.....somewhere. But there are the following issues:

                    1) The decline in image quality if the film were not professionally preserved by an owner aware of their worth. If for example they were in an attic or university vault, they would surely be unwatchable by now.

                    2) No one has actually said they have come across the reels of a Greb fight, but claimed they were unwatchable. At least the myth would be dispelled if a duff reel or several turned up....but they never have.

                    3) I once read that there was a private showing of one of his fights by a collector in the late 70s......but that the footage was very grainy even then.

                    4) Jimmy Jacobs did come across a listing in his own collection for one of the Tunney fights, but the film was strangely absent.

                    5) If there was someone who had the films.....and knew they had the films, they'd certainly be worth a lot. Interest in Greb has never been higher. Even digital transfer rights/documentary making could make the owner a pretty penny. That no one has owned up yet, is not a brilliant sign.

                    6) Could an owner simply be a colossal fan who would be mortified at releasing the footage to find that it takes away from his legend? There is a real chance that he might not look that impressive on film. I'm sorry to say that the training footage really didn't do him any favours. With the absence of fight film his legend is almost mythic.
                    Yeah is it mythic. That's actually where the term legend comes from, the stories told from one generation to another passed down through the years before a time where film and TV existed.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by New England View Post
                      anybody know the details of that training footage?

                      who took it, how it was stored, what kind of film was it on, etc?

                      if that film exists the possibility that others, in similar quality, are out there.


                      i tend to think that footage would either be possessed unknowingly or destroyed unknowingly. it really seems farfetched to think that a single collector would be sitting on a fight sample.

                      surely you'd have in insured, etc. somebody who knows a bunch about historic fight footage would have to appraise it. would he keep his mouth shut?
                      every time i watch that footage that's the first thing that springs to mind. it really doesn't make any sense, maybe, if we can find who had that footage from the beginning we'll get some answers.

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