Ali IS tha man...

[butterfly1964]

Ali and Louis were were two of the greatest human beings ever.
But..Joe Louis is still greater in the ring.

yeah, by beating small white guys lol!

[butterfly1964]

He spins it any possible way to give Ali an edge, but yeah, weight seems to be one of his main "arguments", if you can call them that...Along those lines, I'll assume that he thinks Nicolay Valuev beats Ali and easily at that, considering Valuev weighs 100+ lbs more than fighters who proved capable of hurting Ali (Cooper, Frazier, Mildenberger, Shavers, etc.).

who put salt in your coffee?

[BKM-]

yeah, by beating small white guys lol!

Joe Louis beat QUALITY opponents and ducked no one, unlike Ali pretending to have cold feet against what's his name?

[butterfly1964]

Joe Louis beat QUALITY opponents and ducked no one, unlike Ali pretending to have cold feet against what's his name?

yeah, so much quality. braddock was top notch, so was abe simon and nova, great fighters definetely. however, foreman, frazier, and liston were just a bunch of bumbs lol!

[BKM-]

lol you duck just like your man Ali .
You can't face the truth about him being intiminated. Cold feet haha.

[butterfly1964]

lol you duck just like your man Ali .
You can't face the truth about him being intiminated. Cold feet haha.

i wouldn't blame him, cause he was showing some signs of parkinson's (even though i still don't believe that's true). unlike louis who padded his record in his prime.

[Yogi]

unlike louis who padded his record in his prime.

I still can't believe there are those who take that "Bum of the Month" nickname seriously...

Do some research Butterfly and you shall find that more than half of Louis' title defenses came against fighters who were ranked as one of the three best Heavyweight contenders at the time they face Louis (Farr #2 contender, Mann #3, Schmeling #1, Galento #1, Pastor #2, Godoy x2 #2, Burman #3, Conn #1 both times, Mauriello #1, Walcott #2 & #1, etc., etc.)

Padded record, my ass...Louis faced the best that was around during his time.

[butterfly1964]

I still can't believe there are those who take that "Bum of the Month" nickname seriously...

Do some research Butterfly and you shall find that more than half of Louis' title defenses came against fighters who were ranked as one of the three best Heavyweight contenders at the time they face Louis (Farr #2 contender, Mann #3, Schmeling #1, Galento #1, Pastor #2, Godoy x2 #2, Burman #3, Conn #1 both times, Mauriello #1, Walcott #2 & #1, etc., etc.)

Padded record, my ass...Louis faced the best that was around during his time.

alright, i'll give you that one, but who faced better competition during their careers, louis or ali?

[Yogi]

(even though i still don't believe that's true)

Hmm, I wonder who I'd be more prone to believe...

Some young 18 year-old teenager, who happens to be a Ali fanatic of unhealthy proportions?

Or...

The MSG Matchmaker/President by the name of Teddy Brenner, who originally put the whole Ali/Bobick fight together?

That's a toughie!

[butterfly1964]

Hmm, I wonder who I'd be more prone to believe...

Some young 18 year-old teenager, who happens to be a Ali fanatic of unhealthy proportions?

Or...

The MSG Matchmaker/President by the name of Teddy Brenner, who originally put the whole Ali/Bobick fight together?

That's a toughie!

i'm 17.

that doesn't mean he was scared to fight him.