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  • #61
    don't you just love it when people who don't know what they're talking about tell other people how things are supposed to be?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
      - Ray Robinson
      - Harry Greb
      - Sam Langford
      4. Henry Armstrong
      5. Ezzard Charles
      6. Benny Leonard
      7. Willie Pep
      8. Roberto Duran
      9. Bob Fitzsimmons
      10. Archie Moore
      I don't know if you noticed but we have the exact same list just different order.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
        I can understand how Louis doesn't make P4P10 lists, personally.

        Depends how high you rate dominance in your criteria, I prefer Ali's, Langford's, Robinson's, Greb's etc awesome wins against the likes of Gans, Tunney, Foreman etc, to weigh more than dominance of a weaker era.

        Which is why I feel Charles ranks so highly, he beat Moore 3 times!
        And that's just the top of the Iceberg.

        How many fighters have beaten a Top 10 ATG in his prime 3 times? I don't think anyone.

        Then there's Yarosz, Lesnevich, Burley x2, Maxim x5, Bivins x4, Marshall x2, Walcott x2, Louis

        I honestly think that could be the best resume of all time. It's simply amazing.

        The more I think about it the more I think about moving him to #1.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
          Beat me to it lol. I was going to say, when Paqman is the unified champ in three REAL weightclasses simultaneously (not phony azz "junior" and "super" divisions) then Paqtards can come talk to me about putting Manny up there with Armstrong

          Poet
          Pacquiao held titles at: Flyweight, Bantamweight, Featherweight, Lightweight, Welterweight

          Armstrong at: Featherweight, Lightweight, Welterweight.

          There are the 8 original classes:

          Flyweight 8 st (50,802 Kg / 112 lb)
          Bantamweight 8 st 6 lbs (53,525 kg / 118 lbs)
          Featherweight 9 st (57,153 kg / 126 lbs)
          Lightweight 9 st 9 lbs (61,235 kg / 135 lbs)
          Welterweight 10½ st (66,678 kg / 147 lbs)
          Middleweight 11 st 6 lbs (72,574 kg / 160 lbs)
          Light Heavyweight 12½ st (79,378 kg / 175 lbs)
          Heavyweight (unlimited)

          BTW these days you can't hold a world title in multiple weight divisions at the same time, so, eh, good luck witht hat.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by KO'er View Post
            Pacquiao held titles at: Flyweight, Bantamweight, Featherweight, Lightweight, Welterweight

            Armstrong at: Featherweight, Lightweight, Welterweight.

            There are the 8 original classes:

            Flyweight 8 st (50,802 Kg / 112 lb)
            Bantamweight 8 st 6 lbs (53,525 kg / 118 lbs)
            Featherweight 9 st (57,153 kg / 126 lbs)
            Lightweight 9 st 9 lbs (61,235 kg / 135 lbs)
            Welterweight 10½ st (66,678 kg / 147 lbs)
            Middleweight 11 st 6 lbs (72,574 kg / 160 lbs)
            Light Heavyweight 12½ st (79,378 kg / 175 lbs)
            Heavyweight (unlimited)

            BTW these days you can't hold a world title in multiple weight divisions at the same time, so, eh, good luck witht hat.
            Holding a title isn't the same today as it was, considering you have 4 which most people consider "valid".

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            • #66
              Originally posted by KO'er View Post
              Pacquiao held titles at: Flyweight, Bantamweight, Featherweight, Lightweight, Welterweight

              Armstrong at: Featherweight, Lightweight, Welterweight.

              There are the 8 original classes:

              Flyweight 8 st (50,802 Kg / 112 lb)
              Bantamweight 8 st 6 lbs (53,525 kg / 118 lbs)
              Featherweight 9 st (57,153 kg / 126 lbs)
              Lightweight 9 st 9 lbs (61,235 kg / 135 lbs)
              Welterweight 10½ st (66,678 kg / 147 lbs)
              Middleweight 11 st 6 lbs (72,574 kg / 160 lbs)
              Light Heavyweight 12½ st (79,378 kg / 175 lbs)
              Heavyweight (unlimited)

              BTW these days you can't hold a world title in multiple weight divisions at the same time, so, eh, good luck witht hat.
              Pacquiao never held a major Bantamweight belt at any point in his career, nor has he held more than one belt at a time in any of those weightclasses. He has never been a unified champ at anything. Try again please.

              Poet

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              • #67
                Jimmy Wilde should be in a top ten shouldnt he?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ironjab View Post
                  Jimmy Wilde should be in a top ten shouldnt he?
                  Not in my opinion.

                  Great fighter but his resume simply isn't Top 10 calibur.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    I don't know if you noticed but we have the exact same list just different order.
                    Was going to say the same thing apart from me and Ruben have them in the same order and if I made a serious list I'd probably have the same 9 and 10 as him, could change them for Gans or Ross though.
                    Both didn't put a number to the first 3.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                      Pacquiao never held a major Bantamweight belt at any point in his career, nor has he held more than one belt at a time in any of those weightclasses. He has never been a unified champ at anything. Try again please.

                      Poet
                      So are you saying that any of the other titleholders in the weightclasses could stop prime Pacquiao when he was in the same weight class as them? No way IMO.

                      Manny beat Barrerra, Morales, Marquez (at least once), etc. Manny has beat every great fighter he has stepped into the ring with.

                      BTW it's easy for you to talk about "being a unified champ", there was only 1 belt in each class when Armstrong was around he couldn't become a unified champ when he held a belt.

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