Top 10 Greatest Fighters of All Time

[AntonTheMeh]

Jack Dempsey should be in any respectable top 10 because he was ****ing Hollywood actresses

that's a whole 'nother list buddy.

[Prince_Pugilist]

Joe Louis didn't make the cut?

No, I really dislike his whole "bum of the month club" run that he had as champion, if he had better list of fighters in that period he'd crack my top 10. I'd have him top 20, not that I've ever made a top 20...yet.

Willie Pep winning a round without throwing a punch was found to be untrue from Newspaper reports of the fight it supposedly happened in.

As much as I am a Hagler fan I don't feel he belongs in a Top 10 P4P, especially with the absence of Monzon.

I heard the same as you, that the Pep round win was a myth but in an article somewhere recently, might have been on secondsout.com, the actually named the fighter and the fight it happened in. Maybe that's just conjecture too but I like the sound of it.

I think Hagler is far too underrated, I see some boxers named above him in p4p lists and I think to myself "wtf!". He had a great run at 160, beating living legends in Hearns and Duran, as well as worthy challengers such as Mugabi and Roldan, not only did he beat them, he knocked guys out. In fact, Hagler fought and beat almost anybody who was worthy of mention, in and around his division at the time.

[Prince_Pugilist]

Also, Monzon would probably be second only to Hagler in the middleweight division post Robinson, so if anyone has the Argentine in their top 10 I wouldn't argue with that.

[Prince_Pugilist]

Good enough list... but the bolded three I can't see as top 10 P4P fighters. And Kid Chocolate sticks out like a sore thumb. I have him in my top 50, but besides LaBarba his resume isn't top 10 caliber.

Also can't see how Chavez and Hagler surpass Duran and Charles.

But having Gans there brings a smile to my face.

BTW, Pep never won a round without throwing a punch; that myth has been thoroughly busted.

I have a problem with Duran. Great fighter, yes. Great to watch, yes. Multiple championships in multiple weight divisions, yes. But I just can't get over the fact that he quit, just plain quit, against Leonard. Not because his hand was broken, or his jaw, or his ribs, or it had been a tough war where both guys were ****** up. No, he just quit, because he didn't want to fight/chase Leonard round the ring. His excuse, or the excuse of his many millions of fans is that he didn't train for the fight or that it happened too soon after the first fight...5 months not long enough and if a guy doesn't train hard enough, whos fault is it?

[NChristo]

I have a problem with Duran. Great fighter, yes. Great to watch, yes. Multiple championships in multiple weight divisions, yes. But I just can't get over the fact that he quit, just plain quit, against Leonard. Not because his hand was broken, or his jaw, or his ribs, or it had been a tough war where both guys were ****** up. No, he just quit, because he didn't want to fight/chase Leonard round the ring. His excuse, or the excuse of his many millions of fans is that he didn't train for the fight or that it happened too soon after the first fight...5 months not long enough and if a guy doesn't train hard enough, whos fault is it?

You mean he quit like Chavez did in Randall II ?, you can't take away Duran's achievements because of him quitting but somehow hold Chavez in such regard.

[Barn]

No, I really dislike his whole "bum of the month club" run that he had as champion, if he had better list of fighters in that period he'd crack my top 10. I'd have him top 20, not that I've ever made a top 20...yet.

Bum of the month club was just because he was decimating them and was always the favourite, he didn't fight many outside the Top 10 during his reign. here's a list I found elsewhere.

1934
Lee Rampage - No. 10

1935
Patsy Perroni - No. 6
Natie Brown - No. 10
Primo Carnera - No. 4
King Levinsky - No. 10
Max Baer - No. 1

1936
Charley Retzlaff - No. 4
Max Schmeling - No. 2 - LOSS
Jack Sharkey - No. 4
Al Ettore - No. 3
James Braddock - World Champion
Tommy Farr - No. 3

1938
Nathan Mann - No. 3
Max Schmeling - No. 1

1939
John Henry Lewis - World Champion at Light-Heavyweight
Tony Galento - No. 3
Bob Pastor - No. 2

1940
Johnny Paychek - No. 5
Arturo Godoy (2) - No. 1

1941
Red Burman - No. 4
Buddy Baer - No. 5
Billy Conn - World Champion at Light-Heavyweight
Lou Nova - No. 1

1942
Buddy Baer - No. 4
Abe Simon - No. 6

1946
Billy Conn - No. 1
Tami Mauriello - No. 1

1947
Jersey Joe Walcott - No. 1

1948
Jersey Joe Walcott - No. 1

1950
Ezzard Charles - World Champion - LOSS

1951
Lee Savold - No. 4
Cesar Brion - No. 8
Rocky Marciano - No. 3 - LOSS


Overall record vs. top 10 opposition (incl. 2 light-heavyweight champs): 30-3

I heard the same as you, that the Pep round win was a myth but in an article somewhere recently, might have been on secondsout.com, the actually named the fighter and the fight it happened in. Maybe that's just conjecture too but I like the sound of it.

Yeah that happened, but the round it happened was a "ferocious round" with "many punches thrown", "a clicker couldn't keep track of the blows" or something like that. Round 3 of the Jackie Graves fight.


I think Hagler is far too underrated, I see some boxers named above him in p4p lists and I think to myself "wtf!". He had a great run at 160, beating living legends in Hearns and Duran, as well as worthy challengers such as Mugabi and Roldan, not only did he beat them, he knocked guys out. In fact, Hagler fought and beat almost anybody who was worthy of mention, in and around his division at the time.

Yes he was very dominant and awesome but still not top 10 material, he doesn't have the resume to match the others deserving of that spot.

[The Surgeon]

Most people tend to leave Archie Moore out of their Top 10 lists.

I can't see how, he's Top 10 for me, at the very minimum.

For me he's most definitely top 15, probably about 11 or 12 actually and on any given day i might feel he cracks the top 10! When u talk about True Greatness of this kind of calibre then ranking the top guys comes down to splitting hairs really...

[KO'er]

I wonder if many people will have Pacquiao in their top 10 lists soon in the near future.

He has won more linear titles than Henry Armstrong. Pacman won titles from flyweight up to light-middle. Just saying if people rate Armstrong that high then Pacman should be there too.

[Barn]

I wonder if many people will have Pacquiao in their top 10 lists soon in the near future.

He has won more linear titles than Henry Armstrong. Pacman won titles from flyweight up to light-middle. Just saying if people rate Armstrong that high then Pacman should be there too.

There was only 8 weight classes when Armstrong was fighting, he held them all Simultaneously as well. Plus went on a 19 fight or so defence of the WW title.

[StarshipTrooper]

There was only 8 weight classes when Armstrong was fighting, he held them all Simultaneously as well. Plus went on a 19 fight or so defence of the WW title.

Beat me to it lol. I was going to say, when Paqman is the unified champ in three REAL weightclasses simultaneously (not phony azz "junior" and "super" divisions) then Paqtards can come talk to me about putting Manny up there with Armstrong

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