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  • #21
    Originally posted by Mike Tyson77 View Post
    Boom Boom was fun to watch. Though that was back in the "day"
    didnt realize there was an expiration date on how entertaining a fight is

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    • #22
      He was another fighter. Period.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
        Hell no. He was a pretty good fighter who CBS got behind and promoted his story hard. ATG? Not even close.
        - -Noone knows more than Scott knows...NOONE!!!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Mintcar923 View Post
          I watched some clips of him in his younger years and he did seem like a tremendous young fighter with a great personality. However, the only fight I own of him is when he came back extremely rusty against Greg Haugen in '92 I think. Does he deserve ATG status?
          So Mintcar... Its easy to get a distorted view of guys coming up... I am referring to guys on the radar, guys who are seemingly going some place. We see the guys who wash out, and it is obvious... Juan Ma Adrien Broner.... Right? These are the guys who obviously never reached their projected rise...

          Then there are guys who had decent careers... Nando is a good example of a guy on the fence regarding someone who never became great as projected, and somewhat of a wash out according to many at the time... Not my opinion lol.

          I would imagine most prospects who are special wash out before fans ever really get to know them. Then, the majority are guys who have good careers...

          Very few reach ATG status... and forget HOF in boxing! its not important. ATG status is important. mancini squarely is in the second group here. Nothing to be ashamed of... Professional prize fighting is an enerprise that takes LUCK & more luck, great skill, great self discipline, more luck and the ability to not have a fundamentally exploitative quality.

          Example of the last would be David Price. Now, take price, give him a touch of Marciano's will, a decent chin, and things might have been different... give Tua more reach.... you get the idea.

          Greatness is always a quality that is rare. You can take kids from all over this country... and by the time you get gifted kids with an IQ in the genius levels... You will have a sample of kids that is very small.

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          • #25
            I can't see him on anyone's ATG list. Good fighter, fun to watch. That's about it.

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            • #26
              No but he was a decent world champion

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              • #27
                He was popular because of his aggression. But being popular and being great are two different things..........Rockin'

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                  No but he was a decent world champion
                  Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                  He was popular because of his aggression. But being popular and being great are two different things..........Rockin'
                  the mancini that got murdered by arguello would ko lomo tbh

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