First 'Boxer' ever?

[raf727]

Forgive me if this has been asked before...

I was wondering if the boxer that Odysseus won't fight in the Odyssey, because he was a guest of the king and they have that important guest-host relationship, is known as the first 'Boxer' in history? I know Boxing was one of the original Olympic events, which started in 774 BCE

If not, what are some other examples?

[CubanGuyNYC]

Forgive me if this has been asked before...

I was wondering if the boxer that Odysseus won't fight in the Odyssey, because he was a guest of the king and they have that important guest-host relationship, is known as the first 'Boxer' in history? I know Boxing was one of the original Olympic events, which started in 774 BCE

If not, what are some other examples?

My post won't answer your question, but the answer you seek would probably be devoid of substance even if you should find it.

There's another thread in the history section regarding the meaning of the word "boxing." It's an English word meaning, "to fight with the fists," dating back to the 1560s. The ancient Greeks obviously didn't use the actual word "boxing" to describe whatever martial art they were referring to. According to Wikipedia, "pygme/pygmachia" was what they called this ancient form of fighting.

Also according to Wiki, "boxing" (what we'll call it) was not one of the original games. The first Olympic games were all foot races. Apparently, the ancient form of boxing wasn't added until many years later, along with other fighting arts such as pankration and wrestling. (The first Olympic games lasted only one day, but were later extended to five.)

Homer's "Odyssey" was written in ancient Greek, so the word "boxing" in English translations is almost certainly a generic term meant to describe some form of fist fighting that only somewhat resembles the modern sport. (Even the bare-knuckle variety John L. Sullivan partook in wasn't exactly like what we witness today.) The "boxer" in the tale could very easily have been a pankration fighter, or even a wrestler. I wouldn't go so far as to call him the first known "boxer."

[Speed Demon]

the first boxer ever was a caveman named thog. he had exciting wins over a deer, a guy who tried to have sex with his wife, and a member of a rival tribe. although he desperately wanted to fight lighting, it turned out it was too fast for him and he never got a shot in. he also was slated to fight the sky but he lacked the reach necessary to do damage and died of exhaustion after a grueling match at the ripe old age of 23.

[Miburo]

First historical reference of any kind to boxing is a mural found on Thera, of the Minoan civilization circa 1600 BCE.

[Rockin']

Who was it that Fred Flinstone had to fight back in the stone ages, I think his name was The Mauler. That's my answer, The Mauler.....Rockin'

[SBleeder]

Manny Pacquiao has existed since the events of Genesis and will continue to exist through the events of Revelation.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Who was it that Fred Flinstone had to fight back in the stone ages, I think his name was The Mauler. That's my answer, The Mauler.....Rockin'

Gotta love those cartoon nicknames! The all-time "champeen" has to be Bugs Bunny's wrestling nemesis, "The Crusher." lol

[BritishBoxing92]

Forgive me if this has been asked before...

I was wondering if the boxer that Odysseus won't fight in the Odyssey, because he was a guest of the king and they have that important guest-host relationship, is known as the first 'Boxer' in history? I know Boxing was one of the original Olympic events, which started in 774 BCE

If not, what are some other examples?

given the fact that boxing originates from ancient greece in the year 688 BC it would be hard to tell given the fact that it happened thousands of years ago...

[raf727]

Forgive me if I didn't come across clear.

I meant the first reference to an actual professional boxer, by name basically.

[BritishBoxing92]

Forgive me if I didn't come across clear.

I meant the first reference to an actual professional boxer, by name basically.

you would probably be best off researching it on Boxrec would be you're best bet but tbh professional boxing has had so many fighters and years put into it dating back to the early twentieth century when it first began with prize fighting would be hard to track the first ever but best of luck

i doubt however boxrec would be able to trace back the first ever prize fighter in history of professional boxing... if it helps however the first sanctioning of a prize fight in professional boxing began in a club in london in the year.

In 1891, the National Sporting Club (N.S.C.), a private club in London, began to promote professional glove fights at its own premises, and created nine of its own rules to augment the Queensberry Rules.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_boxing

maybe you might want to start there