Jim Braddock?

[MasterODisaster]

Just watched my favorite film again today, and was wondering just how good was he when he fought Baer and Louis for those that know better than what the movie showed (Hollywood tends to exaggerate). He seemed to do well against Louis for a little while there.

How did his career go after the Louis fight?

How did Baer do after he lost to Jim?

Are there any good books about the era (specifically about Braddock that are somewhat accurate)?

Was Jim the same type of fighter before the injury to his hand or is it believable that the injury and him having to use his other hand to work on the docks pretty accurate?

Any and all help is much appreciated!

[Daddy T]

I watched the braddock louis fight and i know people say louis beat the snot out of him but it didn't seem that one sided to me

[JAB5239]

Just watched my favorite film again today, and was wondering just how good was he when he fought Baer and Louis for those that know better than what the movie showed (Hollywood tends to exaggerate). He seemed to do well against Louis for a little while there.

How did his career go after the Louis fight?

How did Baer do after he lost to Jim?

Are there any good books about the era (specifically about Braddock that are somewhat accurate)?

Was Jim the same type of fighter before the injury to his hand or is it believable that the injury and him having to use his other hand to work on the docks pretty accurate?

Any and all help is much appreciated!

I watched the braddock louis fight and i know people say louis beat the snot out of him but it didn't seem that one sided to me

Louis had tremendous respect for Braddock, calling him the most courageous fighter he ever fought. For his part Braddock said getting hit with Joe's jab was like getting hit with any other fighters right. Getting hit with his right was like getting hit with a crow bar.

[Daddy T]

Louis had tremendous respect for Braddock, calling him the most courageous fighter he ever fought. For his part Braddock said getting hit with Joe's jab was like getting hit with any other fighters right. Getting hit with his right was like getting hit with a crow bar.

yeah and apparently Louis always called him "the champ" whenever they met

[Canelo Phresh]

Louis had tremendous respect for Braddock, calling him the most courageous fighter he ever fought. For his part Braddock said getting hit with Joe's jab was like getting hit with any other fighters right. Getting hit with his right was like getting hit with a crow bar.

never heard that interesting though. these are the kind of things that let you know louis could have potentially dominated in any era.

[Daddy T]

and in answer to the op yes there is a great book on the pair (braddock and max that is) I believe it is simply called cinderella man. Read it a few years back its a great read that follows the careers of both fighters up to, including and after their fight. lots of other great fighters are talked about in it too especially Dempsey and louis.

If memory serves i think jim only fought once after louis and i think that was against Conn or Farr - whom Jim beat. (forgive if I'm wrong, this is off the top of my head and its been a while since looking at this stuff but I think thats right)

As for maxi he fought on for a good while - the most notable that i can think of was his fight against Louis (well worth a watch) Max was in incredible pain before the fight - his hands were messed up but Dempsey (who had been getting fed up with what he regarded as max's premadonna **** basically told him to quit making excuses and get out there and fight like a man you whimp ... or something to that effect. max went out and tried to make the fight as short as possible cause he knew he couldn't take a long fight - result short and brutal war!

[MasterODisaster]

Some cool stuff, thanks guys!

I am surprised that Jim only fought once after the Louis fight though, especially seeing (if correct) he flattened a good fighter in Conn. I am not surprised at all that Louis had the utmost respect for Jim though, how could anyone have any disdain for such a man?

I do recall reading somewhere that Max did help pay for the funerals of the guys he killed in the ring. I believe he also put one of their sons through university as well. I think they made Max into more of a monster in the film for dramatic effect, and I read that Max's family were very angry that he was portrayed that way.

[Ray Corso]

The movie about Braddock was extremely accurate about Braddock as a fighter and man. This was a high prospect who came across tuff times and faultered to the point that matchmakers and promoters didn't want to use him. Thats when a fighter turns to short money and bad promotions to be able to fight even when injured. Imagine trying to exsist during a depression that was as close to the destruction of families as this country has ever lived through. As I stated recently on another thread these men from that era were the greatest fighters to me because their reasons to fight were actually survival motovated. Braddock could fight stepping over to the right as a right handed fighter at a time when most guys were still straight ahead styled fighters. He could move both ways and knew when to fight defensively and could win fighting cautiously, very smart fighter.
Just as a side note when the forum talks about feared fighters and power packed punchers Max Baer needs to be in there if not right on top. Baer was THE most feared puncher of his time!!
The boxing scenes were done to perfection as to capturing all the fighters styles and mannerism. The skipping after his opponent to land a punch is what Baer did in reality. Along with the posturing the facial expressions were spot on. The producers brought in Angelo Dundee who as a young man worked with Braddock to authenticate the fight scenes that were accurate. The best boxing movie about one of the most respected fighters of all time who just happened to win a title when he was just trying to fed his family. Once he beat the depression era he did pretty well and never looked back on what was a scarey situation that so many men worked through to maintain their families. Ray.


oh yeah not a "great" record but a real reality record, lost to some guys he could have beaten but when your busted up and hungry its not that easy to be a "front runner" like some of the guys I see now.

[Barn]

Some cool stuff, thanks guys!

I am surprised that Jim only fought once after the Louis fight though, especially seeing (if correct) he flattened a good fighter in Conn. I am not surprised at all that Louis had the utmost respect for Jim though, how could anyone have any disdain for such a man?

I do recall reading somewhere that Max did help pay for the funerals of the guys he killed in the ring. I believe he also put one of their sons through university as well. I think they made Max into more of a monster in the film for dramatic effect, and I read that Max's family were very angry that he was portrayed that way.

Braddock spilt decisioned Tommy Farr over 10 rounds after Louis and that's all he did.

Farr was Louis' first title defence and was a very game and solid fighter.

[Cyberspace]

I loved the movie, how close the the true story was it?