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  • #11
    Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
    Lets just say you have an outstanding chin and each one of them gets to take a free shot at you! Which one do you dread the most?
    Haha, can't say that's the most pleasant scenario!

    Ok, probably Tua or Lennox followed by Foreman, Tyson, Shavers, Wlad, Morrison then the rest. Tua could knock anyone out if he gets a free shot at their chin, though I'd probably recieve more damage from a Lennox or Foreman right hand thrown at full power. Might be able to brace for it a bit better though. Honestly, the only one I wouldn't mind taking a shot off of from that list is Dempsey (assuming I'm McCall, say).

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
      Rank in order the following 15 fighters based PURELY on one punch power

      Doesn't matter what hand its from or what punch it is just rate their one punch power based on their best shot

      Tyson, Liston, Shavers, Foreman, Lewis, Dempsey, Louis, Tua, Bowe, Wlad, Ruddock, Morrison, Marciano, Ibeabuchi & Frazier....

      1. ?
      2. ?
      and so on....


      outside of the top two the order is probably most dependent on whose fights // drubbings i saw recently
      it's hard to rank a guy low when he's recently blasted some guys out for you on the youtube

      foreman
      shavers
      tyson
      wladimir
      liston
      lewis
      tua
      ruddock
      morrison
      bowe
      ibeabuchi
      louis
      marciano
      frazier
      dempsey


      my head is thumping just thinking about the methodology (letting them hit you on the chin and evaluating the damage)



      i also will add that i rank wladimir so high because:

      A: because it's very evident that he punches with unbelievable power in his right hand
      B: emanuel steward says he hits harder than lennox lewis
      C: he's naturally the biggest man on the list

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      • #13
        Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
        Haha, can't say that's the most pleasant scenario!

        Ok, probably Tua or Lennox followed by Foreman, Tyson, Shavers, Wlad, Morrison then the rest. Tua could knock anyone out if he gets a free shot at their chin, though I'd probably recieve more damage from a Lennox or Foreman right hand thrown at full power. Might be able to brace for it a bit better though. Honestly, the only one I wouldn't mind taking a shot off of from that list is Dempsey (assuming I'm McCall, say).


        what do you think of ruddock's power Mr. Ovah?


        that hook he threw was always pretty damn brutal

        quite a bit behind that shot
        Last edited by New England; 01-18-2012, 08:19 PM.

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        • #14
          1. Shavers
          2. Foreman
          3. Tua
          4. Tyson
          5. Liston
          7. Marciano
          8. Louis
          8. Lewis
          9. James Smith
          10. Witherspoon

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          • #15
            Originally posted by New England View Post
            what do you think of ruddock's power Mr. Ovah?


            that hook he threw was always pretty damn brutal

            quite a bit behind that shot
            The smash? It was a very hard shot if it landed cleanly, though it always looked rather awkward and difficult to throw. I wouldn't enjoy taking it of course, but then I really wouldn't want to be punched by anyone on that list.

            I think that ranking power punchers of this calibre is always a bit silly, since when it comes down to it there's so little difference between them. Course, there are some really standout guys like Tua, but if nearly everyone on that list barring Dempsey landed right they'd probably get the stoppage.








            Not on me though, cause I'm Oliver McCall.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              i also will add that i rank wladimir so high because:

              A: because it's very evident that he punches with unbelievable power in his right hand
              B: emanuel steward says he hits harder than lennox lewis
              C: he's naturally the biggest man on the list
              Just to address points 2 and 3, I always tend to be skeptical of what others have to say about a fighter's power since it's always so subjective and you never know exactly what the reason behind it is. Not that I doubt Manny Steward, but he's said some funky things in the past and gone back on his statements a couple of times. He's also training Wlad at the moment, so that has to be taken into consideration.

              Regarding his being the naturally biggest man on the list, that of course is true, but unlike some of the punchers mentioned (Lennox, Tyson, Shavers etc) he really doesn't get a lot of his bodyweight behind the shots, so his size advantage is to a degree mitigated. I'd still rank him above a good many men on that list, probably in the top five or just outside, but I can't help thinking that a good many of his recent opponents have been able to take his right hands flush on the chin without being laid up in a dribbling heap on the floor, Haye especially.
              Last edited by nomadman; 01-19-2012, 05:30 AM.

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              • #17
                As most have mentioned these lists are very hard and opinions change frequently but here is my take - Today!

                1. Shavers (Right hand) Just a monster shot, uppercut was a beast too

                2. Foreman (Right uppercut) Ask Smokin Joe...

                3. Tyson (Left hook) Hard to pick his best shot, he thinks it was the right hand but most KO shots came from left hook. Speed and power combo was lethal

                4. Liston (Left hook) heavy bonecrunching power

                5. Tua (Left hook) Ferocious shot thrown with great form and a lot of weight behind it

                6. Louis (Right hand) The Perfect shot, excellent technique

                7. Lewis (Right hand) Terrific leverage and big weight behind it

                8. Frazier (Left Hook) Dropped (Prime-ish) Ali clean, Nuff said.

                9. Morrison (Left Hook) Was sending guys through the air and i cant shake that Razor KO

                10. Marciano (Right hand) Suzy Q baby....

                11. Dempsey (Left hook) Delivered with malice

                12. Bowe (Overhand Right) Looping and heavy, close ran by upperrcut

                13. W.Klitchko (Right hand) Naturally heavy and well executed but lacking the commitment or vicious intent of a Tyson, Dempsey ect...

                14. Ruddock (Smash) Awkward shot delivered with bad intensions

                15. Ibeabuchi (Left hook) Heavy handed and fairly quick, had Bryd cooked

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
                  Just to address points 2 and 3, I always tend to be skeptical of what others have to say about a fighter's power since it's always so subjective and you never know exactly what the reason behind it is. Not that I doubt Manny Steward, but he's said some funky things in the past and gone back on his statements a couple of times. He's also training Wlad at the moment, so that has to be taken into consideration.

                  Regarding his being the naturally biggest man on the list, that of course is true, but unlike some of the punchers mentioned (Lennox, Tyson, Shavers etc) he really doesn't get a lot of his bodyweight behind the shots, so his size advantage is to a degree mitigated. I'd still rank him above a good many men on that list, probably in the top five or just outside, but I can't help thinking that a good many of his recent opponents have been able to take his right hands flush on the chin without being laid up in a dribbling heap on the floor, Haye especially.


                  agreed on the points. ruddock left his feet with the "smash hook"
                  that's unique punch if i've ever seen one!
                  i used to throw them at the bag in the gym back in my day!

                  when i mention steward's statement in a LIITR interview (a company i used to write for and toward which i am very partial,) i usually preface it with your logic
                  wladimir is his current HW and his best fighter. he's obviously got a stake in building up his power.

                  i do believe he;s a bigger right handed puncher than lennox, though, but that's just me agreeing with an opinion

                  and wladimir also rarely lets his horses run
                  i think if you line up a heavybag, though, you wont find many guys in history who can hit it harder than wladimir can with that right hand of his

                  obviously thats an opinion and up for debate

                  his shoulders are so high and arms so long
                  his bones are gigantic
                  and he's 245-250 in supreme condition.


                  if we're talking about an "effective" punchers list he'd be quite far below most of the other punchers, simply on the merits of him not throwing much or in combination

                  hell, he usualyl starts a fight off with literally nothing but jabs for a few rounds
                  you cant be an effective power puncher if you dont throw the things

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                  • #19
                    The Smash kinda reminds me of a wilder version of Oscar's 45 shot


                    Wlad would have scored higher for me but he never commits to a punch the way some of the other do, for instance Ive seen Tyson land himself on the floor after a miss having thrown it with such malice on his mind. Guys like Dempsey and Tyson REALLY committed to their punches, Wlad is too careful to generate his maximum power

                    SIDE NOTE: Talking of committing to ur punches (throwing with bad intentions) can u think of anyone who threw with more commitment than Gatti or Mosley?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
                      The Smash kinda reminds me of a wilder version of Oscar's 45 shot


                      Wlad would have scored higher for me but he never commits to a punch the way some of the other do, for instance Ive seen Tyson land himself on the floor after a miss having thrown it with such malice on his mind. Guys like Dempsey and Tyson REALLY committed to their punches, Wlad is too careful to generate his maximum power

                      SIDE NOTE: Talking of committing to ur punches (throwing with bad intentions) can u think of anyone who threw with more commitment than Gatti or Mosley?

                      lol
                      probably not. gatti did nothing but punch in his prime

                      jackson is up there as well
                      rocky marciano
                      g man mcclellan
                      jean pascal puts a lot into his shots if i had to pick an active figher

                      but nobody is like gatti in that regard
                      not many like shane either (who could also rely on his perfect ten chin)

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