History Section: Lets Discuss Joe Calzaghe's Legacy/Achievements?

[RubenSonny]

Joe had a great boxing mind and excellent skills. He always figured out his opponent and took them out of their game while dictating the pace. His opposition could have been better, but anyone who doesn't recognize him as a top fighter is kidding themselves. He'd be a difficult fight for anyone.

What on earth do you base this on?

[IronDanHamza]

Joe Calzaghe was a very taletned fighter. All time great ability.

He had the ability to beat most fighters of his era.

The problem is; his resume is very weak.

He's the epitome of an underachiever, IMO. He had so much skills and ability.

The fact is, atleast in terms of resume, he is not an all time great. It's just way too hollow. Consisting of almost nothing, with like 3 wins over Top ranked opposition his entire career.

Yeah, he had alot of title defenses. But so did Sven Ottke, so did Ivan Calderon, so did Johnny Nelson. Now, I'm not saying Calzaghe is no greater than them, he is. But, it means you can't put much stock into title defenses.

He will get into the HOF. But in my opinion, I'm not too sure if I would vote for him. That's just my opinion and honesty. He will get in. Should he? Personally, I'm not even sure.

[Scott9945]

What on earth do you base this on?

His ring smarts, unique style, workrate, and skills.

[The_Demon]

Joe had a great boxing mind and excellent skills. He always figured out his opponent and took them out of their game while dictating the pace. His opposition could have been better, but anyone who doesn't recognize him as a top fighter is kidding themselves. He'd be a difficult fight for anyone.

Very well said

His resume is slightly lacking,but he was an incredible fighter who could pose anybody problems,he had a very good all round game and an awkward style,and a crowd pleasing style if his opponent engaged him

[IronDanHamza]

Very well said

His resume is slightly lacking,but he was an incredible fighter who could pose anybody problems,he had a very good all round game and an awkward style,and a crowd pleasing style if his opponent engaged him

I think 'Slightly lacking' is a pretty big understatment.

[wmute]

In all honesty, I don't think he would have "posed problems for anyone". Simply put, he was way too open for a right hand.

There are many fighters around his weight who I would put my money on in a heartbeat, because of that. Off the top of my head Charles, Moore, Toney and prime versions of Jones, Hopkins would all beat him without much of a problem. They are all great to atg, but that's enough to cut him out from ATG status IMO. Solid HoF it is.

[StarshipTrooper]

His ring smarts, unique style, workrate, and skills.

It's easy to look like you have awesome skills when you're fighting scrubs.

Poet

[Scott9945]

It's easy to look like you have awesome skills when you're fighting scrubs.

Poet

I've never seen anyone else make Bernard Hopkins look that bad. Before or after.

[StarshipTrooper]

I've never seen anyone else make Bernard Hopkins look that bad. Before or after.

A well past-it Bernard Hopkins that has to be carefully matched to win. That wasn't the B-Hop of 2001. Even so the result is considered in many quarters to be controversial; so apparently he wasn't able to make a well past-it Middleweight look all that bad considering it's a disputed decision.

Poet

[Scott9945]

A well past-it Bernard Hopkins that has to be carefully matched to win. That wasn't the B-Hop of 2001. Even so the result is considered in many quarters to be controversial; so apparently he wasn't able to make a well past-it Middleweight look all that bad considering it's a disputed decision.

Poet

It was still years before Hopkins entered a fight with Chad Dawson defending his lightheavyweight title at even odds. Like I said, Hopkins has never looked worse than against Calzaghe. Of course you could say the opposite is true as well. It was an ugly match between difficult fighters.