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  • #11
    Originally posted by dancovboxer View Post
    funny guy.
    Agreed the post became so funny I had to edit to incorporate some serious element...

    What can I say I find "know all" remarks like "Floyd will do this...", etc etc immensely amusing so I try to throw some amusement in return...

    Hey, atleast you can't call me selfish.

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    • #12
      tough one

      i dont know if benny's style is right for beating may

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ghns1133 View Post
        tough one

        i dont know if benny's style is right for beating may

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrAs0Tyo5g
        Looks okay to me ...

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Greatest1942 View Post
          Without picking a winner here, Leonard has some of the smoothest footwork ever. How much greater would he look in hi-def and color, imagine?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
            just because he's an all time great and top 3 or whatever doesn't mean he could beat or even be competitive with mayweather, he came from a completely different era.

            I don't know how much footage exists of Benny Leonard but from what I've seen yeah he was a great fighter very skilled and crafty but I don't see any reason why floyd would have any problems with the guy.

            Did he accomplish more than floyd, is he ranked higher all time? sure why not. but head to head is a different thing. For example Rocky Marciano is ranked pretty high on the all time greatest heavyweight lists that doesn't mean he would be competitive with Vitali Klitschko or Lennox Lewis or Bob Fitzsimmons would beat a prime Roy Jones etc.
            Here we go. The old "boxing has evolved" jazz.

            I suggest you check out Poet's thread, it contains a pretty compelling argument that boxing has devolved over time.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
              Here we go. The old "boxing has evolved" jazz.

              I suggest you check out Poet's thread, it contains a pretty compelling argument that boxing has devolved over time.
              Didn't you know, like, back in Holecene era of the 1920s, like, peeps were like TOTALLY Neanderthals back then......We've, like, TOTALLY evolved since them 1920s caveman days.

              Poet

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              • #17
                floyd hadn't really yet discovered his style at LW

                but he did have some serious tools against guys that size.
                the only guy who ever really gave him issues was castillo and he and leonard's styles and physical makeup are polar opposite.


                i'd pick floyd to win a somewhat clear and comfy decision in a close fight. faster hands. crisper, more accurate puncher.
                lesser fighters than mayweather were able to beat leonard.


                the best means of beating mayweather is not how leonard fought (though his physical strength and punching power gets underrated. he was competitive at WW late in his career and often fought as a jr WW. he also had a lot of real knockouts with his opponent on the ground.)


                i think floyd would win 10 rounds out of 15
                maybe 9. something to that effect.

                nice fight
                maybe they'd do it twice and leonard might have a better shot the second go round

                nobody is getting stopped or overmatched here.
                Last edited by New England; 09-30-2011, 09:25 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by New England View Post
                  i'd pick floyd to win a somewhat clear and comfy decision in a close fight. faster hands. crisper, more accurate puncher.
                  lesser fighters than mayweather were able to beat leonard.
                  Almost all of Leonard's losses anywhere near his prime were against Hall of Famers. If Mayweather had 200+ fights against Leonard's level of opposition he'd have a load of losses too. Obviously anyone can pull off an upset in a one off fight but here I go for the guy who was far, far more proven than Mayweather. Leonard by decision.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Kid McCoy View Post
                    Almost all of Leonard's losses anywhere near his prime were against Hall of Famers. If Mayweather had 200+ fights against Leonard's level of opposition he'd have a load of losses too. Obviously anyone can pull off an upset in a one off fight but here I go for the guy who was far, far more proven than Mayweather. Leonard by decision.


                    i'd pick mayweather to beat britton, ritchie, dundee, and welsh as well, going off of memory and not heading to the boxrec for some extras.


                    these are good fighters, yes, and hall of famers, but they are still lesser fighters than mayweather.

                    smaller, too. with a same day weigh in floyd would have likely never even been a LW.


                    this thread isn't about resume, where 2011 mayweather can't hold leonard's jock, it's about picking who you think would win in a prizefight, and i pick floyd mayweather based on the styles and the fighters and how i think things would play out.
                    Last edited by New England; 09-30-2011, 09:26 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                      Here we go. The old "boxing has evolved" jazz.

                      I suggest you check out Poet's thread, it contains a pretty compelling argument that boxing has devolved over time.
                      I won't speculate on the matchup, but seriously i read these kinds of things everyday on the internet.

                      Yet to this day, no one has been able to tell me HOW these "advanced training techniques" or "modern nutritional science" have been put in to use for todays fighters.

                      If we compare how they both train and eat, it looks extremely similar. The only big difference would be that there was more athletes to compete with back in the days.

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