"What's my name?" Ernie terrel got what he deserved from Muhammad Ali

[sonnyboyx2]

except drugs, unlike names, give you more than a psychological advantage.

not a single shread of evidence to say drugs have been used, its clear from viewing Pacquiao`s career performances that his improvement is down to his association with Freddie Roach... boxing ability wise as well as ring generalship have improved 110% since Pac teamed up with Roach... looking at both Pacquiao & Floyd physique wise, IMO it is Floyd who is the steroid abuser and his demands are to take the heat off himself.. however we will have to wait and see what the commision rules stipulate should these 2 fighters agree to fight in the autumn.. For Floyds sake i hope the fight happens because he will need to fight until he is 50yrs old to pay Pacquiao all the damages he will be awarded from his lawsuit

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not a single shread of evidence to say drugs have been used, its clear from viewing Pacquiao`s career performances that his improvement is down to his association with Freddie Roach... boxing ability wise as well as ring generalship have improved 110% since Pac teamed up with Roach... looking at both Pacquiao & Floyd physique wise, IMO it is Floyd who is the steroid abuser and his demands are to take the heat off himself.. however we will have to wait and see what the commision rules stipulate should these 2 fighters agree to fight in the autumn.. For Floyds sake i hope the fight happens because he will need to fight until he is 50yrs old to pay Pacquiao all the damages he will be awarded from his lawsuit

seriously???

Ridiculousness aside. How does that answer my post?
I merely pointed out that taking a blood test for PED and calling someone a certain name is not the same thing.

Did I ever say that Pacquiao took anything in my post? No, so why do you feel the need to make this argument?

[boxingbuff]

[[[In and interview with Howard Cosell on ABC not long after the fight, Muhammad Ali apologized for talking to Terrel throughout the fight, and saying "what's my name" then hitting him. However he said he did it so Terrel and other people would respect his religious beliefs. Terrel ended up saying "Muhammad Ali", and rightfully so]]]
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Kid, obviously you've chosen Ali as a idol and role model and certainly he set an good example for a lot of folks, but he also POed plenty and had a pretty healthy selfish and cruel side to him that his idolaters tend to ignore.

Terrell and Ali were longtime friends who had trained a bit with each other and travelled together. The whole name thing was nothing but a promotional gimmick that Ali was using back then, nothing more.

Part of Ali's bad side was that he was incredibly cruel in the ring back then, accused of carrying injured Patterson and Terrell for his amusement. Basically boxers usually have a gentlemen's credo about injured fighters which he broke. Terrell ripped up his eyeball early in the fight on the ropes and was seeing double and triple during the bout. Ali should've KOed him or eased up instead of propping him up to punish and humiliate in the ring.

If you want to look to Ali as an example, then you should understand he wasn't the brightest guy around, and converted to NOI which was and still is not widely respected by most religious peoples in the world, including most ******s. Ali now belongs to a more mainstream sect of Islam because he's older and wiser than he was when he lured into a minor sect of violence and exploitation.

You seem to think Ali was the best athlete in the history of the world, but Michael Jordan was voted that by the media over the past 100 yrs. Beauty contests like that are important to some folks who need something to hang their hat on, but even the world's best athlete could barely crack .200 in the baseball minor leagues or crack 80 in golf, two sports he'd give his MVPs and eyeteeth to compete in at the highest levels.

Why don't you look at Ali as a man, deeply and cruelly flawed with a good heart who strove mightily and heroically in this brief life we live. You'll have a healthier outlook, plus you'll know more than if you're just a one trick pony.

Muhammad Ali was named the "Athlete of the Century" by sports illustrated,USA Today,and other magazines.Ahead of Micheal Jordan.Muhammad Ali was also picked 2nd behind Babe Ruth by the AP,and 4th by ESPN.

[boxingbuff]

Funny that the one person he could beat on relentlessly for calling him Clay, was a guy that had no chance in the first place. I wonder how it would of gone if Frazier or Norton called him Clay, yeah just play Ali's dirty little mind game too. Haha, say ''whats my name'' to Frazier and get a Left Hook that drops you. Say ''whats my name'' to Norton and get your jaw broken. This is one of the most annoying things in Boxing, Ali RELYING on mind games to win, if he was the ''greatest'', why didn't he just go out there like Louis, and prove it without using a ****** gimmick from a Wrestler. What im saying is that either Ali was an ******* to his fighters, or he had to rely on mind games to win. And this is something you can't give a fact on, fanboy.

Joe Frazier always referred to Muhammad Ali as CLAY.Starting back as early as 1966.From 1966 till 1976 Frazier continued to call Muhammad CLAY during his fighting carreer,and still calling him CLAY for atleast 20 years after his fighting carreer.

BTW-Frazier started calling Ali CLAY "before" Ali ever said a bad thing about Joe.Frazier got what he deserved by calling Muhammad CLAY.

[mame09]

clay lost to frazier in his prime (fight of the century)

clay didnt want to come out after the 15th round against frazier (thrilla in manilla)

all the trash talk and verbal abuses towards frazier and he still got the belting of his life.

[Prinsemanspoper]

Indeed,and had "smokey" had the testicular fortitude and not quit in his corner then he would have had his glass jaw cracked by a feather fisted dancer just to cap the morning off.

[Schmerzen]

clay lost to frazier in his prime (fight of the century)

clay didnt want to come out after the 15th round against frazier (thrilla in manilla)

all the trash talk and verbal abuses towards frazier and he still got the belting of his life.

really?
did u saw a picture of frazier after an ali fight ?



it was after their first or last fight i guess, dont know really ...

[JAB5239]

really?
did u saw a picture of frazier after an ali fight ?



it was after their first or last fight i guess, dont know really ...

Frazier took a beating, no doubt. But it still doesn't change the fact that Ali said he didn't want to come out for the 15th. Kudo's to both fighter for arguably the greatest heavyweight fight of all time.

[Prinsemanspoper]

It doesn't change the fact that frazier didn't come out and quit in his corner rather than get knocked out either.


I wouldn't give frazier much credit.People forget just how one sided a contest that fight really was.


This fight wasn't even the greatest heavyweight fight of 1975,let alone of all time.

[JAB5239]

It doesn't change the fact that frazier didn't come out and quit in his corner rather than get knocked out either.


I wouldn't give frazier much credit.People forget just how one sided a contest that fight really was.


This fight wasn't even the greatest heavyweight fight of 1975,let alone of all time.

Serious question here.........exactly how many time have you been banned now? If nothing else I respect your persistence to keep coming back, but I just gotta know. Its gotta be between 15 and 20, right?