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Why did Hopkins duck Harry Simon?
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Originally posted by Scott9945 View PostSimon had no credibility or name value at 160. Hopkins owed him nothing.Last edited by JAB5239; 09-10-2011, 05:37 PM.
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Originally posted by Pastrano View PostSimon was the WBO champion at 160, chump. He was undefeated and had beaten Winky Wright, the same guy Hopkins would shamelessly fight at 170 three years later.
Honestly cant remember ANY call for this one, it wouldnt have been a greaty fight, Hopkins would school em.
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Originally posted by The Surgeon View PostI had actually forgotten that Simon was a MW too, like i said i barely remember him, just that he beat Winky and Wayne Alexander and was undefeated thats all. In fairness tho he only fought there twice at the time, Cherifi and some other dude, both points jobs.
Honestly cant remember ANY call for this one, it wouldnt have been a greaty fight, Hopkins would school em.
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Originally posted by Pastrano View PostI have read an interview with Simon where he claimed he was ready and willing to fight Hopkins, back in 2004. But then a year later he went to jail. He also said however that he had offered Hopkins the fight but Hopkins wasn't interested. He was approached 3 times by Simon's manager but each time made up an excuse.
You can find the article on google. Its on the FORBIDDEN site.ESB.
In 2004 Simon was unranked by The Ring and hadn't fought in 2 years. Combine that with his legal problems and there was absolutely no call for this fight. Managers make up a lot of things to try and get their fighters fights and paydays, but that doesn't make them deserving challengers.
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Originally posted by Pastrano View PostHe was undefeated and had beaten Winky Wright, the same guy Hopkins would shamelessly fight at 170 three years later.
second the decision in Simon-Wright was controversial anyways.
third, at the time the wbo was not thought of very highly at the time.
And finally, Simon was sent to prison after winning the wbo middleweight trinket and did not fight for five years never defending the belt.
I wasn't even going to respond but I guess I did.
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Originally posted by Pastrano View PostSimon was the WBO champion at 160, Scott. He was undefeated and had beaten Winky Wright, the same guy Hopkins would shamelessly fight at 170 three years later.
To keep things in the right context, Winky went on to score a big win over Trinidad and almost beat Taylor (who was 2-0 against Hopkins). In other words, he had something that Simon never had, name recognition. Not that Hopkins-Wright wasn't an awful fight though.
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Gentlemen, this is just another attempt by Pastrano to discredit a great American fighter. Nothing new here
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