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Whats the argument against hagler?
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Most of the knocks I've read here are either racist or anti-American. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows Hagler is an ATG and arguably the best middleweight ever. -
i think some people like to say that he only beat smaller guys but ray leonard andhearns were both 160 when they faught him and they were both taller....
hagler wasnt that big of a mw either... he would come in under 160 sometimes....
he skill, power, determination, and one of the greatest chins of all time.Comment
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True that, and his approach to defending the Middleweight Championship of the World is something you simply DO NOT see today, at any weight. Hagler considered anyone challenging him to be trespassing, and trespassers were prosecuted to the fullest extent of his fists. He came to destroy you, not just beat you. Hagler was the last of his kind. Greatness mattered to him.Originally posted by Boxing Bob View PostComment
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where are the guys that think he is over rated.Comment
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There's no way to make a statement like that.. hagler was a great fighter, and never decisively beaten.Comment
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Great point.
It's mostly the revisionist who like to say Hagler was overrated since he didn't fight too many "big" names. Going to boxrec won't do his record any justice.
The bottomline is that he fought real quality opponents who unfortunately didn't have the star power as Hagler's later opponents, (Duran, Hearns, Leonard).
If a you can say Hagler is overrated, you can pretty much make a case for all the greats.Comment
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Originally posted by blaze778 View Post
I agree...almost any greats resume can be dissected. Any way you cut it Hagler is a top 3 middleweight...One of the best in a very deep division...I don't see how he is overrated.Comment
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People have made good cases for Hagler being the ATG #1 middleweight. (Although I feel Greb cannot be denied as king and that Monzon barely squeeks past him). He fought great comp and was the most wellrounded fighter ever in my opinion. To have a good jab, straight, hook, overhand, uppercut and whatnot from BOTH righty and lefty stances, gives him a bigger toolbelt than anyone. Who could counterpunch, box or brawl equally well. Good attack to the body and upstairs. An ATG chin and 15 round stamina. Not to mention a desire, not only to win, but to hurt and maim his opponents. He has a great chance against any middleweight.
The only way to ovverate him is like "He easily beats Foster at LHW and Ali at HW". But Hagler fans aren't generally that shortsided.Comment
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im a hagler fan and i rate him anywere in the top 5 or 10....
i think people do it sometimes cuse he only faught in one division......
but thats nonsense..Comment
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