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  • #11
    Originally posted by ChopperRead
    Rocky never lost to anyone: including the taxi drivers and bartenders and other detritus that he got fed. Byrd and Lewis are far better than most of Rocky's opponents.
    Jersey Joe Walcott >>>>>> Chris Byrd
    Past Prime Ezaard Charles>>>>Kevin Johnson, Albert Sosnowski
    Archie Moore>>>>>>Samuel Peter, Danny Williams
    Past Prime Joe Louis>>>>>>Kirk Johnson, Shannon Briggs, Juan Carlos Gomez
    Roland LaStarza>>>>>Chris Arreola

    Marciano's Resume Of Wins>>>>>>Vitali Resume Of Wins. IMO!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Southpaw Power View Post
      Jersey Joe Walcott >>>>>> Chris Byrd
      Past Prime Ezaard Charles>>>>Kevin Johnson, Albert Sosnowski
      Archie Moore>>>>>>Samuel Peter, Danny Williams
      Past Prime Joe Louis>>>>>>Kirk Johnson, Shannon Briggs, Juan Carlos Gomez
      Roland LaStarza>>>>>Chris Arreola

      Marciano's Resume Of Wins>>>>>>Vitali Resume Of Wins. IMO!
      After the Marciano fights Ezzards ring record was 10-13. That's substantially past prime.

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      • #13
        I think Vitali wins in a Rocky/Vitali fight. Hell of a fight though as both are or were tough bastards.

        Rocky vs. Wlad...Wlad's weakness with the guys that have no fear of getting hurt to land punches would be the telling factor i think. Corrie Sanders, who i am forever a fan of, mauled Wlad. Rocky punched alot harder than Corrie...thats my opinion of course.

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        • #14
          Marciano would probably go the distance with the current Vitali Klitschko. He is far tougher than the likes of Sosnowski, and a very awkward target at 5'10-5'11, with his crouching style that makes him appear about 5'6. The 6'8 Vitali would have big difficulties landing solid punches on Rocky. It would be an awkward fight.

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          • #15
            Smaller guys can actually give Vitali problems,he does much better against plodding punchbags with no defence or movement,i think VK would win a close decision over Marciano,its an interesting match-up imo

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
              After the Marciano fights Ezzards ring record was 10-13. That's substantially past prime.
              Well the key word there is AFTER the Marciano fights.

              He was just past prime going into them. After the fights with Marciano, they had taken alot out of him and made him alot more washed up that he was going into the Rocky fights.

              Going into the Marciano fights in his last 14 fights he was 12-2 and one of them losses was a debated SD. In that time he'd beat Rex Layne, Bob Satterfield, & Jimmy Bivins.

              And that 1954 version is still better than most on Vitali's resume imo.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Roy Keane View Post
                Vitali to big & to strong,would take his punch no problem.
                Wlad would keep him at the end of the jab then KO him. or lean on him aka david haye tire him and win a UD.
                didnt marciano get knocked down by moore ?

                Marciano gets overrated because of his Undefeated record.
                You mean the same punches that put fighters in comas and has enough energy to lift 1000lbs a foot off the ground according to testing?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Southpaw Power View Post
                  Well the key word there is AFTER the Marciano fights.

                  He was just past prime going into them. After the fights with Marciano, they had taken alot out of him and made him alot more washed up that he was going into the Rocky fights.

                  Going into the Marciano fights in his last 14 fights he was 12-2 and one of them losses was a debated SD. In that time he'd beat Rex Layne, Bob Satterfield, & Jimmy Bivins.

                  And that 1954 version is still better than most on Vitali's resume imo.
                  Word, plus the majority of people who fought Rocky quit boxing within 5 fights after the meeting. Rocky's retired more people than Vitakli's KO'd. ...KO not TKO.....Plus record the time each opponent is on the ground after the ten count. If you don't think Rocco damaged men beyond repair than sir, you need to research the man......Vingo

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                  • #19
                    Apart from Moore It's true that after going with Marciano it's hard to think of many fighters that weren't damaged goods. Wlad I favour the Rock strongly Vitali is a really good match up. Vitali's size may give Vitali more problems than advantages.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                      Sir, I dunno what you think you've discredited, but I didn't mention anything that has to do with out put, nor did I mention anything that can be changed by output. I talked about the type of punches thrown didn't I? So, now I'll reword. Vitali throws like a *****. He's reserved, or not fully committed. He leaves no room for the counter in short. These punches though coming from a larger man than Rocky's faced are not harder than the punches Rocky's absorbed. If you weigh 100 lb and you put 75lbs into your punch and your opponent weighing 80 lbs puts all of his weight into every punch than you sir outweigh and hit softer. 1000 **** punches. There's not a man alive who could handle 1000 Marciano punches. There IS a trade there buddy.
                      I dont think Vitali can take Marciano out with one punch either. I think it's an accumulation of punches that forms the stoppage. And frankly sir, I dont really care if Vitali's punches is unorthodox or rather armpunches. His record speaks for itself in that regard. Enough pop to generate an exorbitant KO-percentage so I dont think theres any case whatsoever for questioning his power.

                      There is no man, possible, who can take a clean Marciano full power shot. The durometer potential for the human skull isn't even close to the kinetic potential in Rocky's fist. In fact, any man weighing 175lbs or more has the weight to kill. So why don't big men kill each other....ever? It's due to having a larger fist; dispersement of energy. Make no mistake about it, If Vitali was swinging ball-peen hammers for fists about he'd be killing without trying, but he's got those giant sledge tops. Which even though weighs quit a bit more isn't used to bend, dent, or otherwise distort the shape of metal.
                      Errrmmm.... ok.


                      I don't give a damn about my sim either. Now that I know it's from the states! We dunno boxing for **** here in America. We don't own the majority of records, nor have we birth more champions than the whole world combined....I just playing. I only mentioned it 'cause I felt like it's interesting. I didn't mean to offend. .....lol @ Ali, man **** Ali. What record of his is still standing?
                      The american comment on my behalf wasnt really neccessary other than to state that it is my genuine belief that the klits are generally underrated- and appreciated on the oher side of the pond.

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