Post 1950 has there been a harder, stronger, durable fighter Than Chris Eubank?

[StarshipTrooper]

To hand,

Benn I and II
Thompson I and II
Collins I and II (hate watching those, though - seeing Chrissy take losses to Collins was pretty depressing as a kid)
Calzaghe
Watson I and II
Malinga
Stretch
Close I and II

+ a few sundries...



Wish Chris had been tested a bit more regularly and we'd seen him against some more of the bigger 90's names, but it is what it is. He had an odd career and the Watson incident took something out of him that never came back, mentally more than physically. Definitely a tough, tough guy with a tremendous fighting heart, proven when he did go in with some of the best guys.

Yeah, other than the Malinga and Close fights those are all ones I got. I've got 18 Eubank fights but thought I had more than that.....funny, I have 45 of Nigel Benn's 48 fights so you'd think I'd have more of Eubank's :thinking9:

Poet

[VERILY]

Yeah, other than the Malinga and Close fights those are all ones I got. I've got 18 Eubank fights but thought I had more than that.....funny, I have 45 of Nigel Benn's 48 fights so you'd think I'd have more of Eubank's :thinking9:

Poet

Ha! I'm (only mildly) surprised you watch those guys outside of their bouts with U.S. fighters, given your formidable anti-Euro rep. ;-)



How do you rate them as boxers/fighters/warriors?

[StarshipTrooper]

Ha! I'm (only mildly) surprised you watch those guys outside of their bouts with U.S. fighters, given your formidable anti-Euro rep. ;-)

How do you rate them as boxers/fighters/warriors?

I also watch Herol Graham and Frank Bruno: Two of my all-time favorite fighters. Graham I believe is a legitimate near-great while both Eubank and Benn have good arguments for cracking ATG status. While I'm dubious about the general quality of Europeon fighters; Eubank, Benn, and Graham proved beyond doubt they were damn good fighters.

Poet

[VERILY]

I'm European and I'm dubious about the (relative) quality of a lot of what comes out of Europe, too. Or, at least, I retain certain standards for it to live up to.


Interesting that you'd enjoy Bruno so much. Nice thoughts, especially on Bomber.

[StarshipTrooper]

I'm European and I'm dubious about the (relative) quality of a lot of what comes out of Europe, too. Or, at least, I retain certain standards for it to live up to.


Interesting that you'd enjoy Bruno so much. Nice thoughts, especially on Bomber.

My favorite fighters doesn't always line up with how good they are: I love watching Jessie Ferguson and he screams journeyman. They are plenty of fighters that I like that are most definately NOT greats or even near-greats, and there are plenty of fighters that I despise that are legitimate ATGs. I just divorce my own person feelings about fighters from my intellectual perception of their abilities. I'm trained as an academic: You learn early on that your personal feelings aren't allowed to intrude on your analysis.

And for the record Herol Graham was a terrific fighter and if anybody hasn't watched any of his fights I would highly recommend that they do so.

Poet

[Pastrano]

Hate to sound like a fanboy, but Marcel Cerdan was hard, strong and durable. He fought for 9 rounds with an injured shoulder against La Motta, who was himself a very strong and durable guy. He walked down Zale, who was past his prime but still a very tough guy.

[coghaugen]

[Mugwump]

It'll be interesting to see how Eubank Jnr. performs.

[Mugwump]

Collins I and II (hate watching those, though - seeing Chrissy take losses to Collins was pretty depressing as a kid)

Question: Would Eubank have beaten Collins sans the mental handicap of the Watson fight?

I certainly have Chris winning one. He had Collins in all kinds of trouble and then simply backed off.

[IronDanHamza]

Just watched Eubank-Benn 1 again.

Amazing, the emotion Chris shows when he wins is spine chilling.