How would Marciano vs patterson have ended?

[Forza]

Rumor is marciano retired early to avoid patterson. If he beat patterson he would have a perfect record of 50-0-0, it looks so much better than 49-0.

I can't see patterson K.O'ing rocky, but I can see him dropping him and winning a wide UD. Then again, I could also see patterson entering the fight scared and mentally weak and getting caught by that cannon of a right hand rocky had.

[IronDanHamza]

With Patterson on his back. IMO.

[Steak]

Patterson wasnt very solid at that point, although still very quick. he was a bit brittle around that time, being dropped by Rademacher in Rademacher's pro debut as well as Roy Harris and Ingemar Joh. point Im trying to make is that Patterson was prone to getting rocked early at that point in his career. Marciano wasnt the cleanest finisher, but when he had you hurt he could pile on punches that would stick with you the rest of the night, due to his heavy punching style.

I see Patterson getting rocked early, taking over in the mid fight, but ultimately failing against Marciano late and getting TKOed due to accumluation of punches and exhaustion.

[Forza]

^ Really? It's true he didn't have the best chin but patterson was easily 10x faster both in the hands and feet.

[Forza]

This vid gives me shivers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Pq6...el_video_title

[Steak]

^ Really? It's true he didn't have the best chin but patterson was easily 10x faster both in the hands and feet.

speed doesnt automatically make you the winner, and speed fades late as someone guts your body.

The punch series that put down Patterson against Rademacher definitely looks like something Marciano could pull off...chopping right hands at fairly close range. I think Marciano could dish on enough punishment then so that Patterson would end up fading late in the fight. Marciano's clubbing sort of punches imo would be able to break open Patterson's sort of guard as well.

[DarkTerror88]

The only person Marciano could have feared as to cause retirement would be Liston. That isnt one pretty match up. Especially in the late 50s. Patterson (one of my all time favs) would get busted. Too much heart to be KOd early (but you never know look at his series with Bingo Ingo) and fast enough for it to be kinda competetive. But Rock stops him, no ifs ands or buts.

[JAB5239]

The only person Marciano could have feared as to cause retirement would be Liston. That isnt one pretty match up. Especially in the late 50s. Patterson (one of my all time favs) would get busted. Too much heart to be KOd early (but you never know look at his series with Bingo Ingo) and fast enough for it to be kinda competetive. But Rock stops him, no ifs ands or buts.

A Liston-Marciano match up would be bad for Rocky, but at the time of his retirement Liston wasn't even a blip on the radar so I highly doubt that was cause for retirement.

[DarkTerror88]

A Liston-Marciano match up would be bad for Rocky, but at the time of his retirement Liston wasn't even a blip on the radar so I highly doubt that was cause for retirement.

Why do you think he retired then?

[Wild Blue Yonda]

Marciano would've won & won big had the fight occurred in real-time, circa-1956 or '57. Patterson was a prodigious & fast-developing fighter, but he was a significantly stronger fighter across the board around the time he knocked out Johansson in 1960.

That Patterson would do better against Marciano than a lot of people like to think, but I could not ultimately see him winning. He was an offensively-minded, forward-moving fighter --- & in Marciano, he would find the same idea, but with a much bigger punch (though Patterson's own power is perpetually under-rated), a far sturdier set of whiskers, & advantages in endurance, output, & pressure-work. Speed would only take Patterson so far in this fight, because he's moving forward, not away.

Marciano KO7, in a reasonably competitive fight. In real-time, though, Patterson freezes, & goes in four.