How hard did Marciano hit compared to heavyweights like Foreman, Liston, Shavers

[LeG00N]

Why not examine their record?

Rocky Marciano:
49 Wins (43 knockouts, 6 decisions), 0 Losses, 0 Draws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Marciano
KO percentage = 87.75%

George Foreman:
76 Wins (68 knockouts, 8 decisions), 5 Losses (1 knockout, 4 decisions),
0 Draws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman
KO Percentage = 89.47%


Sonny Liston:
50 Wins (39 knockouts, 11 decisions), 4 Losses (3 knockouts, 1 decision), 0 Draws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Liston
KO Percentage = 78%

Ernie Shavers:
74 Wins (68 knockouts, 6 decisions), 14 Losses (7 knockouts, 7 decisions), 1 Draw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnie_Shavers
KO Percentage = 91.89%

because their opponents weren't on the same level..

[Greatest1942]

Why not examine their record?

Rocky Marciano:
49 Wins (43 knockouts, 6 decisions), 0 Losses, 0 Draws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Marciano
KO percentage = 87.75%

George Foreman:
76 Wins (68 knockouts, 8 decisions), 5 Losses (1 knockout, 4 decisions),
0 Draws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman
KO Percentage = 89.47%


Sonny Liston:
50 Wins (39 knockouts, 11 decisions), 4 Losses (3 knockouts, 1 decision), 0 Draws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Liston
KO Percentage = 78%

Ernie Shavers:
74 Wins (68 knockouts, 6 decisions), 14 Losses (7 knockouts, 7 decisions), 1 Draw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnie_Shavers
KO Percentage = 91.89%

KO percentage should always be calculated by this formula fights won by KO/ Total fights * 100.

Try this and you will see that Shavers has probably less KO percentage than Foreman or Marciano.

Dont go by Liston's KO percentage. He was a boxer puncher. He tried to box behind his jab . He was not the type of Foreman, who wanted to KO guys ASAP. No. But Liston was extremely strong, eventually his power would hurt his opponent. He was a very strong puncher. Sometimes stats can be misleading.

Yes their opponents were not all on an even peg, but they never are. They destroyed the best they faced (Foreman, Marciano, Liston). Thats all that should count.

[Omega-Red]

LOL Marciano went 10 rounds with a mediocre fighter named Ted Lowry who often fought at 172, 174 pounds, and couldn't Ko him.

Query? Does anyone here think that even the best 175 pound fighter (which Lowry was not) would survive 10 rounds against Foreman or Tyson?

How long did Spinks last against Tyson? How long did Bob Foster last against Frazier, who didn't even hit as hard as Foreman.

It's a bit absurd to make a direct power comparison here. Now for his size, Marciano hit fairly hard.

[kendom]

LOL Marciano went 10 rounds with a mediocre fighter named Ted Lowry who often fought at 172, 174 pounds, and couldn't Ko him.

Query? Does anyone here think that even the best 175 pound fighter (which Lowry was not) would survive 10 rounds against Foreman or Tyson?

How long did Spinks last against Tyson? How long did Bob Foster last against Frazier, who didn't even hit as hard as Foreman.

It's a bit absurd to make a direct power comparison here. Now for his size, Marciano hit fairly hard.

Good point, unlike punchers like Tyson and Foreman Marciano often lacked the ability to blow his opponents out early, he often broke them down with barrages of punches and took a lot of time to warm to the task, look at the fact that he took 9 rounds to brush off Don ****ell, he was a poor starter, which is why i think he would have lost to Tyson and Foreman, he started too slow, he wouldnt last against the early round blitzing of Tyson.

[Greatest1942]

LOL Marciano went 10 rounds with a mediocre fighter named Ted Lowry who often fought at 172, 174 pounds, and couldn't Ko him.

Query? Does anyone here think that even the best 175 pound fighter (which Lowry was not) would survive 10 rounds against Foreman or Tyson?

How long did Spinks last against Tyson? How long did Bob Foster last against Frazier, who didn't even hit as hard as Foreman.

It's a bit absurd to make a direct power comparison here. Now for his size, Marciano hit fairly hard.

LOL!!!!

Heard the names Roberto Davila, Levi Forte ? Foreman could not KO them either.


George weighing almost 220 pound could not KO a man named Gregorio Peralta. Not Lowry. BTW Foreman outweighed Peralta by as much or more than Marciano outweighed Lowry by. Peralta spent much of his career at light heavy too. Jimmy Young though a good boxer wasnt a big heavy too. George won vs Young did he?

Tyson ? Do you know Mitch Green. Tyson could not KO Mitch Green.

Tillis ?James Tillis past his prime and a decent journeyman lost a close decision to Tyson. Tillis never beat a top 10 heavyweight in his career and was KO'd 11 times. Funny Tyson could not Ko a guy others did 11 times.

Larry Sims ? The guy who was stopped by a 42 year old Shavers in one round. Tyson took 3.

Frazier beat Foster ? Okay . Foster got beat by almost every heavy he faced. And Rocky beat Archie Moore a great light heavy whose career at heavy is light years ahead of Foster.

See its not so difficult to dish your great Tyson or Foreman either.