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  • #11
    Originally posted by Toney616 View Post
    Physical Attributes:
    Power:?
    Hand speed: Jones

    Technical Attributes:
    Combinations: Dawson
    Jab: Dawson
    Footwork:?
    Defense:Jones
    Offense: Dawson

    Other:
    Workrate: Dawson
    Intangibles: Dawson
    Boxing IQ: ?

    Blue Print Fight:
    Jones vs Tarver


    Who wins and why?
    wtf is the matter with you?

    dawson has nothing over jones
    power/footwork/IQ "?", seriously?

    not to mention giving dawson a better offense, sweet jesus

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Toney616 View Post
      Physical Attributes:
      Power:?
      Hand speed: Jones

      Technical Attributes:
      Combinations: Dawson
      Jab: Dawson
      Footwork:?
      Defense:Jones
      Offense: Dawson

      Other:
      Workrate: Dawson
      Intangibles: Dawson
      Boxing IQ: ?

      Blue Print Fight:
      Jones vs Tarver


      Who wins and why?
      Physical Attributes: Dawson
      Power: Even

      Hand speed:Jones Jnr

      Technical Attributes:
      Combinations: Jones Jnr
      Footwork:Jones Jnr
      Defenseawson
      Offense: Jones Jnr

      Other:
      Workrate: Dawson
      Intangibles: Dawson
      Boxing IQ: Dawson

      Prime vs prime this is a great fight full of skill. if Dawson uses his size and slickness and has the bit between the teeth from the off i can't see Jnr winning.
      Before you hate Jones Jnr never faced top class competition and fought in a weak division and was still beaten by Tarver and Johnson both who lost to Bad Chad.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by SNAKE GRIFFIN View Post
        Physical Attributes: Dawson
        Power: Even

        Hand speed:Jones Jnr

        Technical Attributes:
        Combinations: Jones Jnr
        Footwork:Jones Jnr
        Defenseawson
        Offense: Jones Jnr

        Other:
        Workrate: Dawson
        Intangibles: Dawson
        Boxing IQ: Dawson

        Prime vs prime this is a great fight full of skill. if Dawson uses his size and slickness and has the bit between the teeth from the off i can't see Jnr winning.
        Before you hate Jones Jnr never faced top class competition and fought in a weak division and was still beaten by Tarver and Johnson both who lost to Bad Chad.
        1. Oh my God
        2. You can say that Roy Jones didn't fight any top competition, until you actually watch his career. Then that sort of stops being applicable. Remember when he annihilated the p4p 1 James Toney? Yeah, me too.
        3. Oh my God
        4. Ever hear of a triangle theory? They're especially laughable when you use an old and rapidly declining fighter. EX: Trevor Berbick > Muhammad Ali > Sonny Liston

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Blah! View Post
          wtf is the matter with you?

          dawson has nothing over jones
          power/footwork/IQ "?", seriously?
          I didn't know what to put so I left it blank, so other posters here could give me their opinions.
          Last edited by Toney616; 05-07-2011, 05:52 AM.

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          • #15
            Jones dominates him and stops him mid rounds,Dawson has never faced anybody athletically better than him and i feel he wouldnt know what too do with a prime roy,he followed Pascal around looking confused quite a lot,so i can only imagine it would be ten times worse for him against Rjj

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Toney616 View Post
              I didnt know what to put so I left it blank, so other posters here could give me their opinions.
              it's not all attributes, just a simple style could be nightmare for another fighter even if the other fighter has the advantage in all the things you listed

              but in this case, dawson doesn't stand much of a chance in terms of physicality or style and im a big bad chad fan

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                I don't give dawson a single advantage over roy in your list.
                Dawson has a better jab
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                intangibles?
                The will to win. The ability to fight through adversity.

                Dawson showed his when he fought Johnson in their first fight. Even though he didnt give a good account of himself with Pascal he was slowly starting to take over the fight rather than give up

                Jones dug deep during the last rounds of the Tarver I fight, seemed to be content to finish during other tough fights like Johnson and Tarver III
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                Workrate?
                At lhw Jones punch output is around 35-40 punches per round.
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                Dawson had a fight or two (glen johnson) where he worked hard
                I'm talking about work rate (i.e avg punch output) and you are talking about a couple of hard fights?
                Last edited by Toney616; 05-07-2011, 06:07 AM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Blah! View Post
                  it's not all attributes, just a simple style could be nightmare for another fighter even if the other fighter has the advantage in all the things you listed
                  True. But how would you state that if you had to produce a list?
                  Style advantage: Jones?
                  Originally posted by Blah! View Post
                  but in this case, dawson doesn't stand much of a chance in terms of physicality or style and im a big bad chad fan
                  Do you think he can improve under manny?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Toney616 View Post
                    Dawson has a better jab

                    The will to win. The ability to fight through adversity.

                    Dawson showed his when he fought Johnson in their first fight. Even though he didnt give a good account of himself with Pascal he was slowly starting to take over the fight rather than give up

                    Jones dug deep during the last rounds of the Tarver I fight, seemed to be content to finish during other tough fights like Johnson and Tarver III

                    At lhw Jones punch output is around 35-40 punches per round.

                    I'm talking about work rate (i.e avg punch output) and you are talking about a couple of hard fights?
                    when did a good jab bother jones you keep talking about tarver fights where he was shot. a thought this was prime for prime?
                    Last edited by JAB5239; 05-07-2011, 02:33 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by musiol View Post
                      your a muppet since when did a good jab bother jones
                      I don't remember saying it did. I'm just listings their attributes. I take it comprehension isn't your strong point
                      Originally posted by musiol View Post
                      you keep talking about Tarver fights where he was shot
                      I listed the Tarver fights as a stylistic match-up. Jones vs a tall rangy southpaw. I never said he was prime during those fights

                      Also how the **** was he shot?
                      Originally posted by musiol View Post
                      your a complete gay shut up!!a thought this was prime for prime you just stay quiet *****
                      You don't have the slightest clue what you are going on about. Intangibles have nothing to do with whether a fighter is in their prime or not. Example take Morales who was shot against Maidana or Toney vs Peters II

                      PS: stop being a blind fanboy
                      Last edited by Toney616; 05-07-2011, 06:53 AM.

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