What Their Records Really Should Read?

[SCtrojansbaby]

Winky Wright should have Ws against Vargas and Taylor

[Wild Blue Yonda]

I thought De La Hoya drew with Quartey & beat both Trinidad & Mosley (rematch), but lost to Sturm. That takes him from 39-6-0 to 39-5-1.

[SCtrojansbaby]

James Toney 73-6-3

Rahman 1 & 2
Ruiz
Peter 1
Griffin 1
McCallum 1 (not a total robbery but I thought Toney won)
Sanderline Williams 1

All should be wins

James Toney record should be 80-4

[Barn]

Hagler - 62-3-2

65-1-1

[JAB5239]

James Toney 73-6-3

Rahman 1 & 2
Ruiz
Peter 1
Griffin 1
McCallum 1 (not a total robbery but I thought Toney won)
Sanderline Williams 1

All should be wins

James Toney record should be 80-4

Can't give Toney the Ruiz win. Cheating is cheating.

[New England]

I'd be interested for someone who watched the majority of Sven Oktte career show his real record

i don't know if i could survive all of that

[Barn]

Muhammad Ali, maybe should have a few less wins.

Jou Louis vs JJW I

Rocky Marcianos win against La Starza was apparantly contraversial.

[Scott9945]

Can't give Toney the Ruiz win. Cheating is cheating.

And I don't know how you can give him the second Rahman fight. It was stopped early due to a clear headbutt.

[McGoorty]

Right, post what you feel should be fighters REAL record but isn't and give reason behind your pick.

I'll start.

Pernell Whitaker's Real Record.
42-3-0
Should of won against Ramirez 1st time and defeated Chavez.

Oscar De La Hoya Real Record
41-5-0.
I feel he defeated Trinidad & Mosley the second time, but lost the Strum, & Mayweather fights. I also felt he won the Quartey fight.

1. Jeff FENECH's Real Record was actually NO DRAWS with the COMPLETE FARCE that was FENECH V NELSON 1, Jeff blitzed Azumah in that great 1st fight, I had Nelson winning just 3 rounds with the first 2 rounds to Azumah and he was about even inone other round, Fenech just cut the ring off from 3rd onwards, the decision of a Draw almost caused a riot in hundreds of Leagues Clubs across Australia (I know, I was in one of them). The final score in the Trilogy is most certainly FENECH 2 , NELSON 1. / 2. Kostya TSZYU also never fought a draw in his life either, despite what it "says" now. I cannot recall the Argentine's name now but KOSTYA went all the way across the the world to the U.S. ( then known as DON KING LAND ) only to come out for the 1st round, break the poor bums jaw and knock him to Disneyland with virtually his first blow (certainly his first meaningfull punch). They went further than the Fenech V Nelson 1 Joke and the IDIOTS DECISION, A DRAW, yes thats right, The FIRST and ONLY time in boxing history that a boxer failed to last 40 seconds of round 1 and was AWARDED with a DRAW,....... as Charlie BROWN said often "" GOOD GRIEF ""

[McGoorty]

Muhammad Ali, maybe should have a few less wins.

Jou Louis vs JJW I

Rocky Marcianos win against La Starza was apparantly contraversial.

I think it would be good for future records of old timers who had N.C. fights that were only given decisions by newspaper experts to have the newspaper decisions given credence over their Career stats (with asterisk of course). Take for example former Middleweight champion AL McCOY, he had well over 100 fights with something like 14 or so official losses and a huge amount of N.D. bouts. I have read that he was well beaten in some 40 something Newpaper decisions, in other words he was bested in at least 45 bouts, because of this oversight, he held 1 of the two existing World Titles at that time, that was the Tex Rickard controlled U.s> version and The HUGH D. McINTOSH controlled Australian version (There was no such thing as a No-Decision 10 round bout, but actual judges and the full 20 round distance. There was BIG money on offer hence the proliferation of Cream Americans and others like Sam Langford). LES DARCY was the holder of the other belt and his main goal was the World Heavyweight Title, but he badly wanted McCOY's belt and when he arrived in America at New York he was greeted by Thousands of people, The entire sporting press, The Mayor and Rickard Kearns and co. BUT NOT Al McCOY who had suddenly dissappeared. Try as he might though he couldn't find a single opponent except for In-House fight with Heavyweight Fred Fulton who stood a Whole FOOT taller in height and 60 lbs heavier and made Fred QUIT ON HIS STOOL after JUST TWO ROUNDS, once word of this hit American boxing it was CURTAINS for LES, for like those who were simply in their own league like CHARLEY BURLEY, they were so good that they ran out of opponents. Darcy once told SAM LANGFORD that he'd Love to spar SAM who was stunned by the temerity of a mere 16 year old boy, then DARCY went immediately out to the ring and stunned Langford even more by totally demolishing Sam's protoge' Dave DUPENA in a few rounds (Dupena was about 21yo. Anyway, there is'nt an expert anywhere that could give Al McCOY a chance in a fight against the great Darcy, after all he lost several fights to likes of McGOORTY, CLABBY, J. SMITH and others that an 18, 19 and 20 year old Les Darcy simply walked over. Mike GIBBONS is in a similar position, If Darcy fought those two, I predict these fights, DARCY Vs Al McCOY,......Les DARCY by 1st round K.O. and,.... DARCY Vs. Mike GIBBONS,... DARCY By K.O. Rd 4 . . DARCY vs Jack DILLON,... DARCY by K.O. Rd 11