Originally posted by pacquia0
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How does a prime Tyson shape up against other top HWs?
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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostHolmes was 38, and Spinks was never a great HW. Even Futch admits that.
Oh and all greats struggled with lesser opposition including Ali.
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Originally posted by pacquia0 View PostBowe's win over Holyfield and Ali's win over Foreman being the exceptions. No other great has a win over a prime great.
Oh and all greats struggled with lesser opposition including Ali.
Of course but, he is referring to styles AND ability not ability on its own.
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Originally posted by SBleeder View PostT
Frazier & Dempsey all dispatch him with relative ease.
Dude, really?
I have seen every fight MT has ever had and loads of Smoke too. Tyson is a better version of both these guys. Ok Joe had more heart, but less speed, power, a less good chin and inferior combo punching. Tyson would do to him what Foreman did.
As for Dempsey. Again, just feel Mike is too powerful and quick. A slug fest that sees the bigger force winning.
Also, Mike would KO Rocky who took far too many shots for my liking. I am a HW historian (moreso then the other divisions), and I can see cases for some besides Ali and Big GF who top Tyson for me. Holmes with his movement and Louis with his diverse skills, but honestly feel in a h2h, Tyson would spark Louis who had a suspect chin.
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Originally posted by pacquia0 View PostThe Tyson who fought Spinks beats any heavyweight in history. I cant see Ali lasting more than 3 rounds against that Tyson.
Big George would not have been scared, it's MT that would have been scared.
Clay/Ali would not have been scared.
Nor Smokin' Joe.
Nor Larry Holmes
Nor Vitali Klitshko for that matter. Mike would have been scared.
I think prime Rid**** Bowe has a good chance as well.
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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostI think I have him at 11-10 in my ATG list and in a H2H list I'd probably have him around 6.
H2h lists are impossible. There will always be a scenario where one great fighter beats another. Greatness, in my opinion, should be defined over an entire career. It is still subjective, but not nearly as much.
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