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  • #41
    liston had a better jab than foreman? really? foremans jab pushed everybody back and liston could only move 180 pounders, foreman had better footwork a better chin fought better people and was stronger. you people tend to overrated liston and underrated foreman

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    • #42
      Originally posted by SeattleSeahawks View Post
      liston had a better jab than foreman? really? foremans jab pushed everybody back and liston could only move 180 pounders, foreman had better footwork a better chin fought better people and was stronger. you people tend to overrated liston and underrated foreman
      Yes..........

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      • #43
        I think he could beat anyone...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by SeattleSeahawks View Post
          liston had a better jab than foreman? really? foremans jab pushed everybody back and liston could only move 180 pounders, foreman had better footwork a better chin fought better people and was stronger. you people tend to overrated liston and underrated foreman
          Liston had MUCH better technique and posessed a greater amount of skill than Foreman.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
            Liston had MUCH better technique and posessed a greater amount of skill than Foreman.
            No doubt. Young Joe Foreman relied too much on his wide looping punches. Like Tyson he forgot his jab, stopped making the little adjustments. He was good at cutting off the ring and then wailing on his cornered opponent.

            I think that most great heavys beat the Young Joe - with the exception of the smaller swarmers (Dempsey, Marciano and Frazier).

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            • #46
              Originally posted by SeattleSeahawks View Post
              liston could only move 180 pounders
              You mean 180 pounders like the 210 pound Cleveland Williams? Or maybe the 211 pound Nino Valdez? :thinking9:

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              • #47
                I think Prime Tyson would lose to most elite Heavyweights. Teddy Atlas said it best when he stated " Mike never actually won a fight." A fight is when the opponent shows resistence, and Tyson folded everytime he was faced with real resistence & adversity: Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis, Williams, Mcbride.

                He could probably beat Patterson, Norton and Wlad on sheer talent but he loses to any good heavyweight with the will to win.






                Wlad, Patterson and maybe Holmes

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by bklynboy View Post
                  No doubt. Young Joe Foreman relied too much on his wide looping punches. Like Tyson he forgot his jab, stopped making the little adjustments. He was good at cutting off the ring and then wailing on his cornered opponent.

                  I think that most great heavys beat the Young Joe - with the exception of the smaller swarmers (Dempsey, Marciano and Frazier).
                  Young Joe Foreman? Didn't he once fight the great Thomas "Hitman" Hagler?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                    Young Joe Foreman? Didn't he once fight the great Thomas "Hitman" Hagler?
                    Smart azz.....but still funny :hahahaha9:

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                      Young Joe Foreman? Didn't he once fight the great Thomas "Hitman" Hagler?
                      Yeah, that the one. :-) Don't know how that got past me.

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