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  • #71
    Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
    Mike Tyson didn't do a hellish lot on the inside and wasn't great there in my opinon.

    There's a video where Rooster4Life really explained it but, his channel got deleted.
    Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
    I feel like he was very dangerous inside as he could rip away with turbo bursts of heavy shots with his short arms. But then i do feel for the most part he just didnt. He imo just let a guy tie him up or didnt work enough on the inside where it should have clearly been Tyson territory. Still i think his opponents knew how dangerous he was short range and hence didnt work inside all that much either
    Tyson had the POTENTIAL to be a great inside fighter, he certainly had the right body type for it. He just didn't translate that potential to reality. The truth is, Tyson didn't like fighting on the inside preferring instead to fight at mid-range where he could get maximum leverage on his punches. On those occasions where he did wind up inside he usually tied his opponents up and let the ref put him back out to the range he wanted without having to work his way there (and expending limited energy doing it) which to my mind is just smart ring tactics.

    Poet

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    • #72
      Not saying these guys are the best, but they are amongst the best ever and deserve a mention...

      They could throw every punch in the book with power, could do damage to a foe's body, and put their powershots together extremely well in combination-

      Alexis Arguello
      Carlos Zarate
      Wilfredo Gomez

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      • #73
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        Tyson had the POTENTIAL to be a great inside fighter, he certainly had the right body type for it. He just didn't translate that potential to reality. The truth is, Tyson didn't like fighting on the inside preferring instead to fight at mid-range where he could get maximum leverage on his punches. On those occasions where he did wind up inside he usually tied his opponents up and let the ref put him back out to the range he wanted without having to work his way there (and expending limited energy doing it) which to my mind is just smart ring tactics.

        Poet
        I agree.

        Tyson didn't do much inside more often than not and seemed limited inside.

        I agree with your view on good ring tactics, I always thought that. Tyson was a mid range fighter in which he wanted to use his explosivness to full effect and get full leverage on his shots.

        But again, though limited, I disagree with the majority then the say he had no inside game. Tyson did some great work on the inside at times and the rareity he fought on the inside was effective.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by jabsRstiff View Post
          Not saying these guys are the best, but they are amongst the best ever and deserve a mention...

          They could throw every punch in the book with power, could do damage to a foe's body, and put their powershots together extremely well in combination-

          Alexis Arguello
          Carlos Zarate
          Wilfredo Gomez
          Great call on Gomez jabsRstiff, all of em infact!

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          • #75
            To me Tyson was decent inside. He separated well to throw those uppercuts.

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            • #76
              Jack Dempsey, Ray Robinson and I always thought guys like Aaron Pryor, Mike Tyson, Ike Williams, Juan Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, etc were phenomenal.

              I think Ike Williams was just as good offensively as Ray Robinson.

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              • #77
                Demsey's offensive game was largely fueled on adrenalin where as Tyson just wanted to kill you. Without doubt, they are two of the most offensve fighters in history but i don't think either of them had a better all round offence than Joe Louis who was a pure and clinical executioner without any of the snarling, growling and mauling which tend to be the trademark characteristics of most offensive fighters.

                I'd say the lighter weights have yeilded a larger crop of fighters in this category.
                Duran and Gomez in particular, with Chavez, Olivarez, Saddler, McGovern, Harada, Pryor, Arguello, Galaxy, Fenech, Trinidad and Pacquiao all worth a mention.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by mickey malone View Post
                  Demsey's offensive game was largely fueled on adrenalin where as Tyson just wanted to kill you. Without doubt, they are two of the most offensve fighters in history but i don't think either of them had a better all round offence than Joe Louis who was a pure and clinical executioner without any of the snarling, growling and mauling which tend to be the trademark characteristics of most offensive fighters.

                  I'd say the lighter weights have yeilded a larger crop of fighters in this category.
                  Duran and Gomez in particular, with Chavez, Olivarez, Saddler, McGovern, Harada, Pryor, Arguello, Galaxy, Fenech, Trinidad and Pacquiao all worth a mention.
                  Terry McGovern is an excellent mention.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by jabsRstiff View Post
                    Not saying these guys are the best, but they are amongst the best ever and deserve a mention...

                    They could throw every punch in the book with power, could do damage to a foe's body, and put their powershots together extremely well in combination-

                    Alexis Arguello
                    Carlos Zarate
                    Wilfredo Gomez
                    JabsRstiff, you forgot about Tito Trinidad.

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                    • #80
                      Joe Louis hands down. A more personal opinionated response would be RJJ though.

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