Hagler vs Monzon

[Barn]

Subjective, it was not a phantom punch, the punch landed on top of the head in an unusual place, could have been ruled a slip, but i have seen worse calls, where there is NO punch landed and yet ruled a knockdown, did u see the punch that knockdown Pacquiao in the first Barrera fight that was scored a knockdown?

Yes I know there are other fights which should not ahave scored a knockdown but, two wrongs don't make a right.

Hagler was bouncing on his toes and as he left the ground a slap/punch to the top/back of the head made him land face first on the canvas. Not a way you would usually see a concious fighter go down from a legitimate knockdown.

[The_Demon]

Not himself, yeah right. I heard that excuse before. Maybe he just was never that special and Duran exposed that? Don't get me wrong, I like Hagler but some people have turned him into this SUPER LEGEND that he never was.

So you call anybody an idiot if they dont have De la hoya ranked as a top ten all time welterweight,but hagler wasnt anything special?

Cumon he was an incredible fighter,everybody knows this,and that isnt what we are debating here

[RubenSonny]

You've said some illogical/******/ridiculous things before but if you're going to start questioning the legitimacy of Hagler you've bottomed out.



Just the other day you were calling Jeff fenech an ATG. But Hagler was nothing special? Yeah ok.

that cracked me up.

[Steak]

Hagler in my eyes is the greatest Middleweight of all time. Not only did he destroy the middleweight competition around at the time, but he even was beating the best in the division before he won the title.

Although Monzon is certainly a tricky customer and an excellent fighter, over I believe that Hagler's immense versatility would win the day. If boxing didnt work, Hagler could throw down at close range. When he needed a break, he could let off and match Monzon with his excellent jab.

I would go for Hagler by great, competitive decision.

[Pastrano]

Hagler in my eyes is the greatest Middleweight of all time. Not only did he destroy the middleweight competition around at the time, but he even was beating the best in the division before he won the title.

Although Monzon is certainly a tricky customer and an excellent fighter, over I believe that Hagler's immense versatility would win the day. If boxing didnt work, Hagler could throw down at close range. When he needed a break, he could let off and match Monzon with his excellent jab.

I would go for Hagler by great, competitive decision.

And how was the division in his time? It wasn't really the ultimate best, was it?? Hamsho and Minter are the best names on his resume apart from Hearns. Mugabi was never that good, it was obvious also in his later fights. He just had a big punch and was strong as a gorilla.

[Barn]

And how was the division in his time? It wasn't really the ultimate best, was it?? Hamsho and Minter are the best names on his resume apart from Hearns. Mugabi was never that good, it was obvious also in his later fights. He just had a big punch and was strong as a gorilla.

It's obvious Mugabi was destroyed mentally.

Oh turns out Meldrick Taylor sucks just look at him after the JCC fight.
Oh wait Mike Tyson wasn't a destroyer in his prime look at his fights after.
Frazier was never that great look at him after the first Ali fight.

There are countless examples.

[Pastrano]

It's obvious Mugabi was destroyed mentally.

Oh turns out Meldrick Taylor sucks just look at him after the JCC fight.
Oh wait Mike Tyson wasn't a destroyer in his prime look at his fights after.
Frazier was never that great look at him after the first Ali fight.

There are countless examples.

Your attempt to mock my theory just falls apart. Don't try so hard.

[Barn]

Your attempt to mock my theory just falls apart. Don't try so hard.

How about you come up with an intelligent retort instead of just dismissing it?

[The_Demon]

How about you come up with an intelligent retort instead of just dismissing it?

Im not sure he's capable

[them_apples]

Mugubi was ruined by Hagler, he was fighting like a madman and was 25-0 gave it his best and still lost.