Holyfield-Lewis in '98: Would it make a difference

[StarshipTrooper]

the professionals make mistakes but you don't, is that what you are saying?

The only person looking like a crank is yourself

And the vast majority of people who saw that fight believed Lewis got robbed so who's the crank here? Look, we know you have a huge dislike of Lewis and he could pitch a shutout and you'd say he lost. You're letting your personal antipathy cloud your reasoning here.

Poet

[RubenSonny]

Holyfield-Lewis 1 is one of the big robberies of recent memory, the second fight was close but I think I scored it for Holy, I'm gonna watch it again in a few days.

[Quarry]

And the vast majority of people who saw that fight believed Lewis got robbed so who's the crank here? Look, we know you have a huge dislike of Lewis and he could pitch a shutout and you'd say he lost. You're letting your personal antipathy cloud your reasoning here.

Poet

i thought Lewis won the fight

[Vadrigar.]

And the vast majority of people who saw that fight believed Lewis got robbed so who's the crank here? Look, we know you have a huge dislike of Lewis and he could pitch a shutout and you'd say he lost. You're letting your personal antipathy cloud your reasoning here.

Poet

Is this sonnboy's ALT?

[RubenSonny]

Is this sonnboy's ALT?

I think you tagged the wrong post, and yes Quarry is Sonny.

[Quarry]

I think you tagged the wrong post, and yes Quarry is Sonny.

i aint sonny unless he lives here in the Isle of man

[Joeyzagz]

I scored the first fight comfortably for Lewis.

The 2nd fight I had Lewis 117-115,

Lennox: 5 rounds
Holyfield: 3 rounds
Even: 4 rounds

Not very entertaining at all and no one really got hurt.

[GJC]

3 highly respected judges who scored 116-113, 115-115 and 113-115 so your 4rds at best for Holy is way off the mark compared to professional judges who between them have refereed and judged hundreds of world title fights and was sitting ringside compiling their scorecards whereas you scored it watching your television coverage.

Christodoulou (116-113) and O'Connell (115-115) were experienced and respected but Eugenia Williams (113-115) certainly wasn't experienced enough to judge a fight of that magnitude and landed the job on 24 hours notice. If you wish to quickly judge her judging, she scored the 5th 10-9 to Holy.
At the New York Senate investigating committee she claimed that photographers kept blocking her view and when invited to review the 5th again said, "but what I've now seen on television, it looked like Lewis was the winner of that round" "But what I saw on TV was not what I saw on the night. I viewed the fight from a different angle"
There was also a mystery $20,000 floating around her bank account that was never satifactorily explained. As for O'Connell being that he was English, maybe he tried too hard to be scrupiously fair?
I too wouldn't give Holy more than 4 rounds, the referee Mercante Jnr thought Holy won no more than 3.

Personally I thought Lewis won the 2nd fight and should have taken the fading Holy out in the last 4 rounds. To me it seemed as if he was content to just do enough and seemed to give away the last round completely.
Closer fight for sure but Lewis again IMO

[joseph5620]

What on earth are you talking about? The word "robbed" implies Holyfield was four or five rounds ahead - perhaps more - and was the victim of a grossly unjust decision. I defy ANYONE to watch that bout and explain to me how Holyfield was miles ahead on the scorecards.

It's now come to the point where any decision, no matter how convincing, is counted as unquestionable evidence of corruption. Words and meaning have lost any semblance of connection.

I bet you believe they filmed the moon landings in a TV studio, too.

The claim that Holyfield was "robbed" in the second fight with Lewis is one of the most ridiculous things I've read here. I also find it strange that usually the people who say that never acknowledge that the first fight was a legitimate robbery. That was a one sided fight. The two fights were not in any way similar in terms of Holyfield getting robbed. I thought Holyfield fought better in the second fight but still lost it.

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=RubenSonny;10296920] I think you tagged the wrong post, and yes Quarry is Sonny.[/QUOTE]









I thought so.