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    Prime for prime, what are the absolute worst match-ups for the following fighters? It could be a hypothetical fight, or a fight that actually happened.

    Roberto Duran @ 135

    Harry Greb @ 160

    Eder Jofre @ 118

    Ricardo Lopez @ 105

    Ali/Clay @ Heavyweight

    Gilberto Roman @ 115

    Roy Jones Jr. @ 168

    Henry Armstrong @ 126

    Archie Moore @ 175

    Evander Holyfield @ 200

    Thomas Hearns @ 154

    My picks will be forth-coming.

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    Duran id say ike williams
    Greb not sure
    Jofre probably fighting harada
    Lopez no one maybe alvarez
    ali i think larry holmes
    roman i say too sharp johnson
    rjjr @168 i think Frankie Liles
    Armstrong I think Saddler
    Moorer/Ezzard Charles beat him 4 times
    Holyfield at cruiser i say toney would have the best chance
    Hearns ar 154 id say mccallum

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
      Prime for prime, what are the absolute worst match-ups for the following fighters? It could be a hypothetical fight, or a fight that actually happened.

      Roberto Duran @ 135

      Harry Greb @ 160

      Eder Jofre @ 118

      Ricardo Lopez @ 105

      Ali/Clay @ Heavyweight

      Gilberto Roman @ 115

      Roy Jones Jr. @ 168

      Henry Armstrong @ 126

      Archie Moore @ 175

      Evander Holyfield @ 200

      Thomas Hearns @ 154

      My picks will be forth-coming.


      duran - whitaker (easy answer, but it's probably the truest in terms of a style that duran wouldnt want to go against)

      greb - no footage exists of his fights, so i cant be confident with this.
      but he was known as a windmill and speedster who was tough and dirty and worked very hard
      gonna go with james toney. he's the best counterpunching middleweight i can come up with off the top of my head. and he was also very big on the night of a fight at MW

      Ali - Frazier. go watch the fights
      nobody made him work like that. nobody gave him those sorts of problems when he was at his best.


      Jones - Yall musta forgot!
      there arent many great names at 168 and i cant name any who i believe are all wrong for roy.
      maybe the g-man. because i got a soft spot for the guy, and he beat roy twice in the AMs. he was also big and fought tall and was a legendary puncher, not a great guy to jump in on.

      armstrong - sanchez and kid chocolate
      the kid was a buttery boxer, and i might see him winning rounds on the purity of his boxing alone
      and sanchez is the best counterpuncher i can think of at 126 who punched with the sort of angles with his fists that would land over a rolled shoulder, or under a tucked chin


      gonna attack some of the rest later
      i gotta run


      good thread, homie

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      • #4
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        duran - whitaker (easy answer, but it's probably the truest in terms of a style that duran wouldnt want to go against)

        greb - no footage exists of his fights, so i cant be confident with this.
        but he was known as a windmill and speedster who was tough and dirty and worked very hard
        gonna go with james toney. he's the best counterpunching middleweight i can come up with off the top of my head. and he was also very big on the night of a fight at MW

        Ali - Frazier. go watch the fights
        nobody made him work like that. nobody gave him those sorts of problems when he was at his best.

        Jones - Yall musta forgot!
        there arent many great names at 168 and i cant name any who i believe are all wrong for roy.
        maybe the g-man. because i got a soft spot for the guy, and he beat roy twice in the AMs. he was also big and fought tall and was a legendary puncher, not a great guy to jump in on.

        armstrong - sanchez and kid chocolate
        the kid was a buttery boxer, and i might see him winning rounds on the purity of his boxing alone
        and sanchez is the best counterpuncher i can think of at 126 who punched with the sort of angles with his fists that would land over a rolled shoulder, or under a tucked chin


        gonna attack some of the rest later
        i gotta run


        good thread, homie
        Ken Norton?

        I feel the worse stlye match up for Ali is Ken Norton.

        Good thread TS. I see you chose mainly fighters that seem unbeatable in he respective weight class at thier absolute peak

        Some tough descions I'll have to think and get back later.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
          Prime for prime, what are the absolute worst match-ups for the following fighters? It could be a hypothetical fight, or a fight that actually happened.

          Roberto Duran @ 135 no one

          Ali/Clay @ Heavyweight Larry Holmes

          Roy Jones Jr. @ 168 no one

          Archie Moore @ 175 Bernard Hopkins

          Evander Holyfield @ 200 no one

          Thomas Hearns @ 154 Antonio Margarito

          Guys that could stay on the outside ands box would give Ali a lot of trouble. B-Hop would eat Moore up on the inside and smother Moore's offense. Hearns is easy he loved to mix it up and its obvious Margarito has awesome chin Hearns has bad chin.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
            Guys that could stay on the outside ands box would give Ali a lot of trouble. B-Hop would eat Moore up on the inside and smother Moore's offense. Hearns is easy he loved to mix it up and its obvious Margarito has awesome chin Hearns has bad chin.
            Hmmm, that's funny. I'd say that Hearns is one of the only guys I'd pick to KO Margarito at his best. Margarito would run into that 1-2 over and over and over. Other guys, his chin holds up. Against Hearns, I doubt it. Hearns boxes the **** out of him...Hearns has an incredibly awkward style that makes him hard to beat. He can usually outbox you and if he can't, he can usually outslug you too. I would actually pick a crazy brawler like Mayorga to have a chance against Hearns, though. The way to beat him was to throw caution to the wind and hope that your power and chin hold up longer than his...Margarito would do this but in the wrong way. Margarito wants to chop you down, Mayorga wants to blow you the **** out. I still don't think Mayorga beats him (obviously) but I'd pick him to upset Hearns a couple of times.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
              Guys that could stay on the outside ands box would give Ali a lot of trouble. B-Hop would eat Moore up on the inside and smother Moore's offense. Hearns is easy he loved to mix it up and its obvious Margarito has awesome chin Hearns has bad chin.
              If Margarito couldn't take Mosley's punches or beat Paul Williams he would go to sleep against Hearns(who could also box). Going straight into Hearns with a lack of speed is a terrible match up for Margarito IMO. Especially since Margarito has been very unimpressive at 154 while Hearns never lost at that weight.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                Prime for prime, what are the absolute worst match-ups for the following fighters? It could be a hypothetical fight, or a fight that actually happened.

                Roberto Duran @ 135 Pernell Whitaker
                Harry Greb @ 160

                Eder Jofre @ 118

                Ricardo Lopez @ 105

                Ali/Clay @ Heavyweight Ken Norton
                Gilberto Roman @ 115

                Roy Jones Jr. @ 168

                Henry Armstrong @ 126 Willie Pep
                Archie Moore @ 175 Michael Spinks

                Evander Holyfield @ 200

                Thomas Hearns @ 154

                My picks will be forth-coming.






                Just off the top of my head.....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                  Prime for prime, what are the absolute worst match-ups for the following fighters? It could be a hypothetical fight, or a fight that actually happened.

                  Roberto Duran @ 135

                  Harry Greb @ 160

                  Eder Jofre @ 118

                  Ricardo Lopez @ 105

                  Ali/Clay @ Heavyweight

                  Gilberto Roman @ 115

                  Roy Jones Jr. @ 168

                  Henry Armstrong @ 126

                  Archie Moore @ 175

                  Evander Holyfield @ 200

                  Thomas Hearns @ 154 Mike McCallum, Sergio Martinez

                  My picks will be forth-coming.
                  I think he could have given Hearns some problems with his style. And Martinez being a southpaw with fast hands and deceptive punches, is a stylistic nightmare for just about anybody.

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                  • #10
                    For Hearns at 154lbs I would say that John Mugabi would give him alot of trouble if not stop him. People tend to think that Mugabi was just a big puncher, but he had some skill. Mugabi could box with him to a certain degree but with the power that he possesed in each hand I would just see it being very tough for Hearns to last 12 rounds with such a puncher. Mugabi earned a bronze medal in the olympics and gave Hagler all that he could handle in a great fight........Rockin'

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