Carlos Ortiz

[Wild Blue Yonda]

Leonard, Duran, Whitaker, Gans & Williams (that's just the names, not the order), I have over him. It's been a great division through the years.

[IronDanHamza]

Leonard, Duran, Whitaker, Gans & Williams (that's just the names, not the order), I have over him. It's been a great division through the years.

You have Ike before Ortiz? Thats one you don't normally see. I personally disagree, but now I think about it Ike is very underrated in his own right. He tends to be in the lower half of the top 10 at LW in alot of peoples lists.

Whitaker tends to be #4 on the majority of lists but Ortiz should be higher than Whitaker IMO.

It really has. As you said a division so deep is oh so difficult to rank.

[StarshipTrooper]

Whitaker tends to be #4 on the majority of lists but Ortiz should be higher than Whitaker IMO.

Ortiz was a great fighter but over Whitaker? I just don't see it.

Poet

[IronDanHamza]

Ortiz was a great fighter but over Whitaker? I just don't see it.

Poet

Alot of people tend to disagree with me having Ortiz above Whitaker. I understand why people would rank Whitaker higher at LW and have no qualms with that.

I rank Whitaker higher than Ortiz of all time considering the only fights (that meant anything) I felt Whitaker didn't win was the Trinidad fight and overall Whitaker has the stronger resume quite clearly IMO.

But at LW, although Whitaker was utterly dominant and I feel he won every fight he had at LW and as we know Ortiz although dominant lost a number of fights at LW.

I just feel Ortiz has a stronger resume than Whitaker at LW personally. I think its hard to split but I lean on Ortiz. Like I said I have abosultey no issue with someone ranking Whitaker higher.