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  • #11
    Originally posted by Demise View Post
    Fuck what Cooper did to Ali.

    Cooper gets overrated here?

    Really?

    I never see him getting talked about in a head-2-head sense. The only thing I've ever seen Cooper's name being mentioned about is the Ali knockdown/glove fiasco.
    Cooper had a long career. One great left hook against a careless young contender doesn't make him more than he really was.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
      Cooper had a long career. One great left hook against a careless young contender doesn't make him more than he really was.
      What was he?

      A tough journeyman?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Demise View Post
        What was he?

        A tough journeyman?
        No, he was a fringe contender and a top European fighter. I'm not saying that Cooper couldn't fight. What I was pointing out is the tendency of some here to think anything that is older is better. I just think he matches up poorly against Haye.

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        • #14
          Like I said, Haye struggles against fighters with a good jab. I think Cooper's jab is underrated and could cause Haye some trouble, as well as Cooper having a mean left hook.

          The era makes no difference, I just thought it was an interesting match-up and was hoping that as it's a history section someone could provide more insight into this fight.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Demise View Post
            Like I said, Haye struggles against fighters with a good jab. I think Cooper's jab is underrated and could cause Haye some trouble, as well as Cooper having a mean left hook.

            The era makes no difference, I just thought it was an interesting match-up and was hoping that as it's a history section someone could provide more insight into this fight.
            Which fights did Haye struggle with good jabs? I'm asking this respectfully knowing that you're in the UK and have likely seen more of his fights than me.

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            • #16
              Cooper slams that hammer into Haye and it's lights out for DH, and no torn glove is going to save his ass.

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              • #17
                And I forgot one of my reasons why Haye is not as good as some people think. The reason is a very old Holyfield out performed Haye.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  Haye would be too big and too fast. Unless Henry gets a home run left hook in, he gets sliced up and stopped in the mid rounds. Cooper is another small heavyweight from the past who gets overrated here. If you're picking him to win this fight then you must be totally unimpressed by Haye. I mean I can't see Haye losing in his home country to clubfighters like Roger Rischer or Amos Johnson. And that happened between the two Ali fights.
                  Joe Bugner at 6ft 5ins 230lbs... and you say Haye would be too big?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                    Cooper had a long career. One great left hook against a careless young contender doesn't make him more than he really was.
                    i suggest you take a look at Coopers left-hook finish here at 9.30 and tell me any other heavyweight in history who poleaxed his opponents with a more devastating left-hook other than maybe Frazier....

                    Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 01-16-2011, 04:33 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                      i suggest you take a look at Coopers left-hook finish here at 9.30 and tell me any other heavyweight in history who poleaxed his opponents with a more devastating left-hook other than maybe Frazier....

                      pretty brutal KO.

                      good find there.

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