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  • #11
    They're all terrible. The WBA could have maintained some level of usefulness if it hadn't ultimately caved to the 15-round ban. Reinstating that would be the only thing positive any of them could ever contribute to the sport.

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    • #12
      Absolute Wankers!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Tengoshi View Post
        They're all terrible. The WBA could have maintained some level of usefulness if it hadn't ultimately caved to the 15-round ban. Reinstating that would be the only thing positive any of them could ever contribute to the sport.

        I like the idea of going back to same day weigh ins to maintain the integrity of the divisions. We have enough weight classes that this should not be a problem.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          I like the idea of going back to same day weigh ins to maintain the integrity of the divisions. We have enough weight classes that this should not be a problem.
          that will never happen due to promoters.

          day before weigh ins are largely used as a promotional tool now and theyll never give it up.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post
            that will never happen due to promoters.

            day before weigh ins are largely used as a promotional tool now and theyll never give it up.

            It makes a farce of the division (and the sport) when fighters come in on fight night weighing two and three divisions higher than the contracted weight. If a sanctioning body re-implemented this as a rule the promoters would have no choice but to go along and it would add credibility to all involved.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by IronMike* View Post
              If you were to rank a fighter, what would their title defenses mean to you?
              It depends where their titles stood in relation to being recognised, legitimately, as the Champion of their division. If they have that recognition, then the belts are no direct detraction from them. However, if you have a situation (& you often do) where you have a linear (proper, & foremost) Champion, & someone else with this belt or that belt, title defenses of those kind mean little to me. They would carry a degree of weight, but not much --- & I would never consider them the real Champ to begin with, so, "title defenses" would be something of a misnomer.

              A good real-world example of what I'm talking about would be the Joel Casamayor-Juan Diaz situation at Lightweight, going back to 2008. At the beginning of that year, Diaz held multiple belts at the weight, but Casamayor was the Ring Champion --- the linear Champion. That takes precedence over Diaz's belts, so to my mind, while Diaz's collection of a few belts by no means detracted from his career, he really needed to face & beat Casamayor for me to start using his name &, "title defenses," or, "World Champ" in the same sentence.

              Of course, later that year, Diaz went down unexpectedly to a former Casamayor victim in Nate Campbell, & the rest is history. Some will look back at the careers of men like Diaz & the likes of Oliver McCall (as another instance) & say, "this guy was a World Champ," but I could never accept that. "Titleist," is a fine word to acknowledge winning a belt or two, but to me, "Champion," is reserved exclusively for the best man in the division, according to the linear crown. That's how it's been for 90% of Boxing's history, & that's how it'll always be to me.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                It makes a farce of the division (and the sport) when fighters come in on fight night weighing two and three divisions higher than the contracted weight. If a sanctioning body re-implemented this as a rule the promoters would have no choice but to go along and it would add credibility to all involved.
                Imagine the chaos, though. Eventually, you would have normalcy, but in the immediate aftermath of the rule reverting back to its original form? You'd have men forfeiting titles & matches being either post-poned or cancelled altogether. Fighters everywhere would be moving up in weight, no longer permitted to drain hard.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  I like the idea of going back to same day weigh ins to maintain the integrity of the divisions. We have enough weight classes that this should not be a problem.
                  I once heard that same day weigh ins were worse for boxers health. Because they would still dehydrate themselfs then rehydrate. I once was thinking that they should weigh in just before they enter the ring, no one would dehydrate themselfs that way.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Holtol View Post
                    I once heard that same day weigh ins were worse for boxers health. Because they would still dehydrate themselfs then rehydrate. I once was thinking that they should weigh in just before they enter the ring, no one would dehydrate themselfs that way.
                    You couldn't do it that way. What happens if a fighter doesn't make the weight? He has no time to go away & sweat out whatever additional weight he's carrying.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Wild Blue Yonda View Post
                      Imagine the chaos, though. Eventually, you would have normalcy, but in the immediate aftermath of the rule reverting back to its original form? You'd have men forfeiting titles & matches being either post-poned or cancelled altogether. Fighters everywhere would be moving up in weight, no longer permitted to drain hard.

                      Rules like this cannot be immediately implemented. The ruling could be made at a certain date and to take effect 1 year from that time, giving everybody ample warning.

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