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Where will Kostya Tszyu Fit in?
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Last edited by McGoorty; 08-08-2011, 10:57 AM. Reason: Ashes started in 1882,,,, Aussies can REALLY play cricket
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Originally posted by McGoorty View PostMate most of us Aussies have a love hate relationship with the Brits and vicey- vercy. But it's mostly love on our part, it all began in 1882 when Fred "The Demon" Spofforth took 14 wickets for almost nothing to Carry the Aussies to a Brilliant victory on English soil and the "ASHES" began. Since then the Aussies have won twice as many tests through history and as such the Bovver Boys have been a bit miffed. As for Tszyu he was Russian and is now a Russian/Australian, and he proudly carried the hopes of Russians and Australians and SOME Americans. The Brits had a rare victory over the AWESOME AUSSIES (lol) and just like a couple of years ago when England finally got the "Ashes" back, the Brits (Poms, in the southern Half), enjoyed rubbing our noses in it for a while,............................................ .................................................. ..Gee look out when Britain finally beats us in another England-Invented sport,... RUGBY LEAGUE "The Football game for REAL men", in the Mid-Twenty First century (We have ruled you since 1970,,,, lol,, 41 years ,.. lol), We'll NEVER HEAR The End Of It........ lol,..... and don't get me started on Australia's Commonwealth games EMPORERS Status,... lol.-----------It's time for the "TIM HENMANLANDERS" to return serve,..... 15 all
Never met an Aussie i didnt like, we had a great crack with all the lads at Hatton vs Tszyu aswell, the banter was strong but so was the respect for both fighters and it was all in good nature
Katsidis should set himself up over here imo, he dont seem to get the love ud expect from the Aussie fans, we love him in Brittain even tho he keeps bashing up our boys! He'd do big money if he signed for Warren
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Originally posted by The Surgeon View PostDude im Scottish i dont give a flying fook about cricket! lol Pub Sports are a Scotsman's domain!
Never met an Aussie i didnt like, we had a great crack with all the lads at Hatton vs Tszyu aswell, the banter was strong but so was the respect for both fighters and it was all in good nature
Katsidis should set himself up over here imo, he dont seem to get the love ud expect from the Aussie fans, we love him in Brittain even tho he keeps bashing up our boys! He'd do big money if he signed for Warren
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Originally posted by The Surgeon View PostDude im Scottish i dont give a flying fook about cricket! lol Pub Sports are a Scotsman's domain!
Never met an Aussie i didnt like, we had a great crack with all the lads at Hatton vs Tszyu aswell, the banter was strong but so was the respect for both fighters and it was all in good nature
Katsidis should set himself up over here imo, he dont seem to get the love ud expect from the Aussie fans, we love him in Brittain even tho he keeps bashing up our boys! He'd do big money if he signed for WarrenI always thought that was one of the coolest things you can be, an Aussie Scot.
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Originally posted by Pastrano View PostAre there any famous Aussie Scots in boxing then?Lol. We can't count Angus and Malcolm Young.I always thought that was one of the coolest things you can be, an Aussie Scot.
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Kostya Tszyu was one of the greatest talents in the sport. Many people don't remember that Tszyu was a defensive whiz in the amateurs. His style was completely different as a pro.
The blessing and the curse was that Tszyu found out early on that he had dynamite in both fists. Once Tszyu found out that he could blast his opponents into defeat, he just about completely abandoned his defensive prowess.
History will view Kostya Tszyu as great fighter and the ruler of the 140lb division. The only problem with that is he faced few notables.
The best that Tszyu beat was Roger Mayweather, a faded Julio Cesar Chavez and an up and coming Zab Judah.
No one can question the man's talent or his incredible ability to finish. Its legendary. However his career was not one of great accomplishments. That is a sad fact, but a true one. His record is impressive, but the level of competition that he dominated throughout his career is not.
Kostya Tszyu could have and should have been one of the greatest jrWW of all time, but talent and punching power alone do not make for a great legacy. He is in the same boat as Mike Tyson. Two awesome forces of nature in the sport who never quite lived up to their potential, but fans will remember how formidable they were in their primes.
He's a HOF'er for sure, but he is not a candidate for the greatest 140lb legacy.
I'm such a fan of Tszyu that I wish I could say more about his career, but it is what it is. Great talent with a lackluster career.
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Originally posted by McGoorty View PostFair enough about the cricket then,... it's an England/Australia thing,,..... we like the Scots EVEN more but,..... lol.......... I agree about Katsides treatment,... boxing is in the doldrums here and it's just apathy,.. Katsides the great,.... great to watch,.... He should have more standing here, that's for sure.
Im hoping Mike can come again, it will be sad if he never wins a real title. My heart went out to him when he lost to Guerrero and gave that interview about his bruv... Stick em in with John Murray or Bam Bam Rios and uve got urself another classic!
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Originally posted by The Surgeon View PostKatsidis was a good lookin young guy (he's getting a bit on the rough side now after all his wars tho lol) charismatic and all entertainment in the ring along with being a classy and humble bloke outside it but he dont get the love? Then uve got a plonker like Mundine who is treated far better tho he is far less entertaining, i dont get it!?
Im hoping Mike can come again, it will be sad if he never wins a real title. My heart went out to him when he lost to Guerrero and gave that interview about his bruv... Stick em in with John Murray or Bam Bam Rios and uve got urself another classic!
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Top 5 JWW easy!
Tszyu is definitely top 5 all time JWW & maybe top 3 & anyone can argue & could be right if they picked him #1 he had the power & size Arguello did not to beat Pryor, which I think he might have, & maybe Duran beats him if Duran had stopped at JWW, Cervantes might pull out a close decision, & Loi also might get a decision, but that's it, I can't see any other JWW challenging him for the top 3 or higher, he beat an undefeated Chavez, & yes he is HOF & an All-time great.
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