Mike Tyson vs Joe Louis

[young_robbed]

Louis takes him out early I think.

[CarlosG815]

hahahahaha Way overrated as you can see here.

I do not even respond to him, look at his posts on Tyson for some laughable quotes.

They range from "Watching Tyson is like watching paint dry"
"So and so by murder and it isn't even close" when referring to a contender from an old era

etc... It goes on and on. Don't even respond to him, I believe he thinks he will get attention by being a non conformist going against the grain and being the "only guy" who found Tyson boring and not entertaining.

[The_Demon]

Unless tyson stops him early id predict louis to win a decision or maybe even stop him late.The chance is always their for for tyson to blast him out,he was a fast starter,but the longer the fight goes the more often louis' jab will snap tysons neck back

[The_Demon]

hahahahaha Way overrated as you can see here.

If anybody gets overrated its tyson,we all know that.In fact,Louis often gets underrated

[CarlosG815]

Unless tyson stops him early id predict louis to win a decision or maybe even stop him late.The chance is always their for for tyson to blast him out,he was a fast starter,but the longer the fight goes the more often louis' jab will snap tysons neck back

Show me where a person with a good jab ever consistently knocked Tyson's neck back? This is what I'm talking about with you - you never know what you're talking about.

The jab was extremely difficult to land on Tyson when he had head movement in his prime. Look at any fight where he fought guys who had the best jabs in the division at the time - Biggs, Holmes, Pinklon Thomas, Mike Spinks, Carl Williams. These guys were all good "boxers" with fantastic jabs, yet when they tried to keep him away with the jab while he was moving inside, he simple slipped it and came up with a blazing hook to end the fight, as is what happened with Holmes and more specifically when he ended the fight with Carl Williams.

Tyson was an expert at timing punches and always got out of the way. I'm not hugging, I'm just stating simple facts that are extremely easy to see on film, but you wouldn't know anything about that as you do not know anything about boxing and I honestly believe you don't even watch complete fights and if you do you are zoned out or something.

Watch him slip this jab in the blink of an eye. Nobody could slip a jab like Tyson, which is why that is called "The best punch in boxing" but when he was at his best nobody could land it on him.



Cus knew that if Tyson could not learn to slip jabs he would never have success being such a small guy in the HW division, which is why his head movement and evasive nature was always a stressed and core part of his routine.

Watch Pinklon Thomas try to keep him away with the jab, but it's like another dog pawing away a a pit bull.

[Barn]

Show me where a person with a good jab ever consistently knocked Tyson's neck back? This is what I'm talking about with you - you never know what you're talking about.

The jab was extremely difficult to land on Tyson when he had head movement in his prime. Look at any fight where he fought guys who had the best jabs in the division at the time - Biggs, Holmes, Pinklon Thomas, Mike Spinks, Carl Williams. These guys were all good "boxers" with fantastic jabs, yet when they tried to keep him away with the jab while he was moving inside, he simple slipped it and came up with a blazing hook to end the fight, as is what happened with Holmes and more specifically when he ended the fight with Carl Williams.

Tyson was an expert at timing punches and always got out of the way. I'm not hugging, I'm just stating simple facts that are extremely easy to see on film, but you wouldn't know anything about that as you do not know anything about boxing and I honestly believe you don't even watch complete fights and if you do you are zoned out or something.

Watch him slip this jab in the blink of an eye. Nobody could slip a jab like Tyson, which is why that is called "The best punch in boxing" but when he was at his best nobody could land it on him.



Cus knew that if Tyson could not learn to slip jabs he would never have success being such a small guy in the HW division, which is why his head movement and evasive nature was always a stressed and core part of his routine.

Watch Pinklon Thomas try to keep him away with the jab, but it's like another dog pawing away a a pit bull.

James Buster Douglas.

Joe Louis was one of the "best" boxers and with his ability to adapt to foes could probably find a way to beat Tyson but, it may take 4-5 rounds which is why Tyson MUST take him out before then.
I highly doubt Spinks is a good example as he completely froze and was beaten before it started and Holmes was 39 and past his prime.

[The_Demon]

Show me where a person with a good jab ever consistently knocked Tyson's neck back? This is what I'm talking about with you - you never know what you're talking about.

The jab was extremely difficult to land on Tyson when he had head movement in his prime. Look at any fight where he fought guys who had the best jabs in the division at the time - Biggs, Holmes, Pinklon Thomas, Mike Spinks, Carl Williams. These guys were all good "boxers" with fantastic jabs, yet when they tried to keep him away with the jab while he was moving inside, he simple slipped it and came up with a blazing hook to end the fight, as is what happened with Holmes and more specifically when he ended the fight with Carl Williams.

Tyson was an expert at timing punches and always got out of the way. I'm not hugging, I'm just stating simple facts that are extremely easy to see on film, but you wouldn't know anything about that as you do not know anything about boxing and I honestly believe you don't even watch complete fights and if you do you are zoned out or something.

Watch him slip this jab in the blink of an eye. Nobody could slip a jab like Tyson, which is why that is called "The best punch in boxing" but when he was at his best nobody could land it on him.



Cus knew that if Tyson could not learn to slip jabs he would never have success being such a small guy in the HW division, which is why his head movement and evasive nature was always a stressed and core part of his routine.

Watch Pinklon Thomas try to keep him away with the jab, but it's like another dog pawing away a a pit bull.

Show me a person as half as good as louis that tyson beat? Douglas got his jab off well and its a crucial weapon if you are going to beat tyson,which i think louis would as he was a much more complete fighter

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Larry Holmes
Tyrell Biggs
Michael Spinks
Henry Tillman
Carl Williams

All "slick" boxers and the biggest names of the era when Tyson fought them and they all got destroyed.

Tyson had very little trouble with "slick" boxers because he was an expert at slipping punches, getting where he wanted, and he was fast enough to throw hard missiles and land on his opponents.

Tyson really only had trouble with any style when he got out of prison and his head head movement, evasiveness, and overall speed was either totally gone or greatly lacking.

He did however look very bad in his fights with Bruno and Douglas, as if he were a totally different fighter. He just didn't move the same and stopped "boxing" but was a one dimensional "slugger." Even so his tremendous speed and power still gave him the ability to beat most people in the division.

I agree with you there. He was a different fighter after the Spinks fight, and the night in Tokyo, he was not all there that night. After that fight, most boxing experts agreed on two things: 1) Tyson wasn't his normal self 2) Douglas fought the fight of his life because his mom died. Yet some people say he was in his prime during that time.

He did beat the best slick boxers of his time but a lot of them made it much more difficult than a fighter that didn't move well. That isn't to say there were a lot of slick boxers that would have beaten a prime Tyson. I think only Ali would have beaten him at his best and Larry Holmes at his prime would have given him trouble but I think Tyson beats Holmes prime for prime.

Tyson messed up bad after prison. He rally made him self look like an ass and in doing so, caused a lot of people to hate him. Kind of like how Floyd Mayweather has caused a lot of people to hate him. When you're hated, there are a lot of haters out there quick to dismiss your abilities and achievements. What makes Tyson so amazing is we are comparing him at 21 years of age against guys it took years to get into their prime.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I do not even respond to him, look at his posts on Tyson for some laughable quotes.

They range from "Watching Tyson is like watching paint dry"
"So and so by murder and it isn't even close" when referring to a contender from an old era

etc... It goes on and on. Don't even respond to him, I believe he thinks he will get attention by being a non conformist going against the grain and being the "only guy" who found Tyson boring and not entertaining.

Oh yeah, I could tell right off the bat he was a hater.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

If anybody gets overrated its tyson,we all know that.In fact,Louis often gets underrated

It depends on how you look at it. If you are using careers to define how good someone was, Tyson doesn't measure up to guys like Lewis, Ali, and Louis. If you compare how well he would have done in a fight during his prime, you have to rate him higher than what his career showed. He messed up his career badly and should be an example to young great talents how easy it is to lose everything. I don't underrate Louis. I think he's up there with the top 4 greatest heavyweights when comparing how well they would have done with each other. If you go by careers, I only have Ali over him.