Muhammad Ali brags about preaching at a KKK convention

[Vadrigar.]

This rubbish is getting boring. It's a been long time since that interview. Why are you still spewing this stuff around as if it's still relevant?

"A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

[Steak]

Ali was an amazing fighter, but a real jackass in his prime years.

Im sure hes mellowed out now, but he was not a nice guy most of his boxing career.

[Toney616]

This rubbish is getting boring. It's a been long time since that interview. Why are you still spewing this stuff around as if it's still relevant?

How is it rubbish exactly? Its gives us a insight into the kind of man your idol was. It is also relevant because it goes to show just how whitewashed the image of Ali is.

"A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

But your problem is that you admire him when he was in his twenties and thirties

[Toney616]

Here is what 'Iron Mike' said to someone during a press conference.

"Youre scared like a little white pussy. Scared of a real man! I'll f#ck you till you love me, ***6ot."

Dude had clearly lost the plot at that stage and no one that I know of makes Tyson out to be some kind of saint either

This type of racism is scarier because Tyson was speaking his true feelings about whites, not reciting lines from a mysterious cult leader.

lol
Is that why his adopted parents were both white?

Off topic: Do you think Ali went all of that way just to condemn interracial relationships? Try and think what his Main Agenda was

[Vadrigar.]

How is it rubbish exactly? Its gives us a insight into the kind of man your idol was. It is also relevant because it goes to show just how whitewashed the image of Ali is.

But your problem is that you admire him when he was in his twenties and thirties

You're nitpicking on these events and trying to portray a negaitve image of ALi, while it seeming ignoring the good things he did. It's rubbish because it's unrepresentative and non-contextual, therefore it dosen't give an insight. The image isn't whitewashed as writers have acknowleded these details, but looked at the wider picture.

It hasn't been relevent since became he changed his views. ALi has clearly retracted and apologised for things he said to Frazier etc.

Of course I admire his fighting ability, charisma and courage out of the ring. what's wrong with that? Even in his twenties he wasn't as bad as you are portraying him. You sound like a hater; you have attested to hating Ali in the past. Over at ESB there is a certain poster with an agenda on Ali.

Sorry about being brash, I wanted to get the point across.

[Toney616]

You're nitpicking on these events and trying to portray a negaitve image of ALi, while it seeming ignoring the good things he did. It's rubbish because it's unrepresentative and non-contextual, therefore it dosen't give an insight..

How is it taken out of context exactly?

It hasn't been relevent since became he changed his views. ALi has clearly retracted and apologised for things he said to Frazier etc.

Ali never apologized to Frazier. Ali said,"I said some things in the heat of the moment and I was just trying to sell a fight". You call that an apology?

Of course I admire his fighting ability, charisma and courage out of the ring. what's wrong with that? Even in his twenties he wasn't as bad as you are portraying him.

Do you think it was an act of courage or cowardice that made him turn his back on Malcolm X and Leon 4xameer?

You sound like a hater; you have attested to hating Ali in the past.

Because I point out that he was never a saint?
You know this thread is over 5 months old and has been recently bumped ............right? I'm done with this topic

[Frighteous]

I have no problem with mixed people but personally i'd never want to be one. Like mallatos, it must be hard being one.

you're italian.

you have dark hair and dark eyes, possibly dark skin? the italians used to have blue eyes and blonde hair, historically. then the moors moved in there and changed the whole bloodline forever.

[Joeyzagz]

Dude had clearly lost the plot at that stage and no one that I know of makes Tyson out to be some kind of saint either

You have a convicted rapist's nickname in your sig. A guy who threatened to sodomize a white man, and eat another mans children. So forgive me if I find your Ali criticism mild and pointless.

lol
Is that why his adopted parents were both white?

Off topic: Do you think Ali went all of that way just to condemn interracial relationships? Try and think what his Main Agenda was

There were two Ali's just like their were two Malcolm X's. Look what happened to Malcolm X when he embraced his unity/loving side? He got whacked by Elijah Muhammad. I think its no coincidence that Ali started to mellow out when Elijah finally kicked the bucket. His relationship with ELijah was similar to Schmelling's time with Hitler and the **** party.

Was it ****** for ali to join a cult like the NOI in the first place? Yes. But once your in you either carry their message or have your house firebombed. The TV hosts and interviewers all thought ALi was a nice guy behind the scenes.

Tyson wouldnt talk to interviewers unless he fornicated with them first, he told others to **** off.

[bklynboy]

you're italian.

you have dark hair and dark eyes, possibly dark skin? the italians used to have blue eyes and blonde hair, historically. then the moors moved in there and changed the whole bloodline forever.

Dude -the Italians (Etruscans and Greeks from Troy) had dark hair and dark eyes and dark skin. There were NO blonds in Italy before 1100 aside from ******; the blond influence in northern Italy is from the German/Holy Roman Emperor's invasions from the 12-15th C and immigration thereafter.

The Moors (a conglomeration of races similar in respect to "Hispanic") were far more predominant in Spain. There were Islamic Slave ports in Southern Italy and Southern France until the beginning of the 11th C but they were not all Moors.

Read, if you will, Marc Bloch's Feudal Society (vol 1) a dated but still excellent introduction.

[StarshipTrooper]

Over at ESB there is a certain poster with an agenda on Ali.

Probably London Ring Rules if I had to take a wild guess.

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