Does Wlad Have A ATG Jab?

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[crold1]

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Yes. Wlad's jab is wicked.

[BigStereotype]

Definitely. It's not quite up there with Ali/Holmes/Liston, but it's great.

[geribeetus]

Definitely. It's not quite up there with Ali/Holmes/Liston, but it's great.

imo liston's gets overrated for its power alone. he reached with it too much.

i think it's ali
holmes
wlad/lennox
liston

[$Bullsfam$]

well when your ****in ten feet taller then everybody else in this *****ty ass small division with lack of size too, it better be ****in good. I still think without his size on everybody else his jab wouldn't be squat and he'd be just another chump in this terrible division.

[geribeetus]

well when your ****in ten feet taller then everybody else in this *****ty ass small division with lack of size too, it better be ****in good. I still think without his size on everybody else his jab wouldn't be squat and he'd be just another chump in this terrible division.

nah. wlad's one of the smartest fighters around right now

[$Bullsfam$]

nah. wlad's one of the smartest fighters around right now

I think Adamek is better, Wlad beats him on size alone. Im not saying he has terrible skills but I just think he looks so good because hes so much bigger and the division is terrible.. I think his brother is alot better technically and doesnt rely on his jab as much. Not to mention his chin which would make him easier to hit if he was smaller. maybe my opening words were too strong and over the top but I think at a smaller size, his fights become WAYYYYYY more competitive. I think its alot easier to outbox guys like Chambers & Byrd when your bigger then them when their undersized as it is and should be cruiserweights. IMO its like Bernard Hopkins beating on welterweights and super welterweights. Hed definitely beat Floyd because hes bigger even though IMO Floyd has better skills and athletic but Hopkins is very smart.

[boxingking500]

I think Adamek is better, Wlad beats him on size alone. Im not saying he has terrible skills but I just think he looks so good because hes so much bigger and the division is terrible.. I think his brother is alot better technically and doesnt rely on his jab as much. Not to mention his chin which would make him easier to hit if he was smaller. maybe my opening words were too strong and over the top but I think at a smaller size, his fights become WAYYYYYY more competitive. I think its alot easier to outbox guys like Chambers & Byrd when your bigger then them when their undersized as it is and should be cruiserweights. IMO its like Bernard Hopkins beating on welterweights and super welterweights. Hed definitely beat Floyd because hes bigger even though IMO Floyd has better skills and athletic but Hopkins is very smart.

yeah cause size is all that matters in boxing

wheres all the guys who are bigger than wlad, shouldn't the be #1

marcellus brown (bigger than wlad) bum
dimentrenko (lost to chambers, who wlad dominated)
valuev ( scared to fight a klitschko)

just another klit-hater...

[WladIsTheChamp]

that's like asking if the Pope is Catholic, he has the best jab of any HW in history, just like Emmanuel Steward said, first it's Wlad, then Holmes, then Lewis

[WladIsTheChamp]

yeah cause size is all that matters in boxing

wheres all the guys who are bigger than wlad, shouldn't the be #1

marcellus brown (bigger than wlad) bum
dimentrenko (lost to chambers, who wlad dominated)
valuev ( scared to fight a klitschko)

just another klit-hater...

Seriously man, the Klitschko haters always use that size excuse but when you tell them that is part of the reason they would dominate the ATGs of the past like Ali and Holmes, they dismiss it, they only use the size excuse when it's convenient for them. They ignore the fact that Ali was bigger than most of his competition, he was fighting 180lbs when he was a full fledged HW, and that was one of his signature wins. Not to mention the fact that you have a lot of boxers as big or bigger than the Klitschkos who are getting beat by much smaller men:
6'1" 209 lbs Chambers beat 6'7 250 lbs Dimitrenko
6'2" 220 lbs Barett beat 7'0" 300 lbs Fields
6'1" 220 lbs Chagaev beat 7'1" 320 lbs Valuev

If size was all that was invloved you would have dudes like Julius Long and Lance Whitaker ruling the division. It takes a lot more than size, obviously the Klitschkos have ATG talent to be doing what they are doing and to have racked up the stats that they have. Look at how many records the Klitschkos have broken and they are still fighting. We are witnessing two truly great HOF fighters, enjoy it while it last and stop detracting from them because they don't fit your idea of what a HW should look like.