Who Would You Take Out The IBHOF?

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Did 'Toucan' McGinty ever make it to the HOF? He surely deserved it. Is there a list of HOF'ers somewhere?

Old Timer - Last bout no earlier than 1893; no later than 1942
Lou Ambers
Baby Arizmendi
Abe Attell
Max Baer
Jimmy Barry
Benny Bass
Battling Battalino
Paul Berlenbach
James J. Braddock
Jack Britton
Lou Brouillard
Panama Al Brown
Tommy Burns
Tony Canzoneri
Georges Carpentier
Kid Chocolate
Joe Choynski
James. J. Corbett
Young Corbett II
Young Corbett III
Johnny Coulon
Eugene Criqui
Les Darcy
Jack Delaney
Jack Dempsey (Nonpareil)
Jack Dempsey
Jack Dillon
Dixie Kid


George Dixon
Jim Driscoll
Johnny Dundee
Sixto Escobar
Jackie Fields
Bob Fitzsimmons
Tiger Flowers
Joe Gans
Frankie Genaro
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
George Godfrey
Harry Greb
Young Griffo
Harry Harris
Len Harvey
Pete Herman
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
James J. Jeffries
Jack Johnson
(Gorilla) Jones
Rocky Kansas
Louis (Kid) Kaplan
Stanley Ketchel
Johnny Kilbane
Frank Klaus
Fidel LaBarba
Sam Langford
George (Kid) Lavigne
Benny Leonard
Battling Levinsky
Harry Lewis
John Henry Lewis
Ted (Kid) Lewis
Tommy Loughran
Benny Lynch
Joe Lynch
Jack McAuliffe
Charles (Kid) McCoy
Packey McFarland
Terry McGovern
Jimmy McLarnin
Sam McVey
Sammy Mandell
Freddie Miller
Billy Miske
Charley Mitchell
Pedro Montanez
Owen Moran
Battling Nelson
Kid Norfolk
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Billy Papke
Billy Petrolle
Willie Ritchie

Maxie Rosenbloom
Barney Ross
Tommy Ryan
Jack Sharkey
Tom Sharkey
Jimmy Slattery
Mysterious Billy Smith
Billy Soose
Freddie Steele
Young Stribling
Charles (Bud) Taylor
Lew Tendler
Marcel Thil
Gene Tunney
Pancho Villa
(Barbados) Joe Walcott
Mickey Walker
Freddie Welsh
Jimmy Wilde
Jess Willard
Kid Williams
Harry Wills
Ad Wolgast
Midget Wolgast
Teddy Yarosz

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Pioneer - Last bout in or prior to 1892
Barney Aaron
Young Barney Aaron
Caleb Baldwin
Jem Belcher
Ben Brain
Jack Broughton
James Burke
Jem Carney
Arthur Chambers
Tom Cribb
**** Curtis
Dan Donnelly
Prof. Mike Donovan
Paddy Duffy
Billy Edwards
James Figg
Joe Goss
John C. Heenan
Tom Hyer

John Jackson
Tom Johnson
Paddington Tom Jones
Tom King
Nat Langham
Jem Mace
Daniel Mendoza
Tom Molineaux
John Morrissey
Henry Pearce
Jack Randall
Bill Richmond
Dutch Sam
Young Dutch Sam
Tom Sayers
Tom Spring
John L. Sullivan
William (Bendigo)Thompson
Jem Ward

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Non-Participant - Those who have made contributions to the sport apart from roles as boxers or observers.
Based upon a candidate's achievements and contributions in their particular field.
Thomas S. Andrews
Ray Arcel
Bob Arum
Jarvis Astaire
Giuseppe Ballarati
George Benton
Whitey Bimstein
Jack Blackburn
William A. Brady
Umberto Branchini
Teddy Brenner
Amilcar Brusa
William D. Cayton
John Graham Chambers
Don Chargin
Stanley Christodoulou
Gil Clancy
James W. Coffroth
Irving Cohen
Cuco Conde
Cus D'Amato



Jeff ****son
Arthur Donovan
Mickey Duff
Angelo Dundee
Chris Dundee
Don Dunphy
Dan Duva
Lou Duva
Aileen Eaton
Pierce Egan
Shelly Finkel
Nat Fleischer
Richard K. Fox
Dewey Fragetta
Don Fraser
Eddie Futch
Billy Gibson
Charley Goldman
Ruby Goldstein
Bob Goodman
Murray Goodman
Bill Gore
Abe J. Greene
Larry Hazzard
Akihiko Honda
Joe Humphreys
Sam Ichinose
Jimmy Jacobs
Mike Jacobs
James J. Johnston
Jack Kearns
Don King
Tito Lectoure
A. J. Liebling
Lord Lonsdale
Harry Markson
Marquess of Queensberry
Arthur Mercante
Dan Morgan
William Muldoon
Gilbert Odd
Tom O'Rourke
Mogens Palle
Dan Parker
George Parnassus
J Russell Peltz
(Tex) Rickard
Irving Rudd
Rodolfo Sabbatini
Lope Sarreal
Wilfried Sauerland
George Siler
Sam Silverman
Jack Solomons
Emanuel Steward
Jose Sulaiman
Sam Taub
Herman Taylor
Bruce Trampler
Lou Viscusi
James J. Walker
Frank Warren
Al Weill

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Observers - Print and media journalists, publishers, writers,
historians, photographers and artists.
Dave Anderson
Lester Bromberg
Jimmy Cannon
Ralph Citro
Howard Cosell
TAD Dorgan
Jack Fiske
Paul Gallico
Bill Gallo
Reg Gutteridge
W.C. Heinz
Jersey Jones
Hank Kaplan
Joe Koizumi
Hugh McIlvanney
Larry Merchant
Harry Mullan
Barney Nagler
LeRoy Neiman
Damon Runyon
Budd Schulberg
Ed Schuyler
Bert Sugar
Stanley Weston

[BennyST]

Did 'Toucan' McGinty ever make it to the HOF? He surely deserved it. Is there a list of HOF'ers somewhere?

Yes, I think so. He should definitely be in the old timers or pioneers section somewhere. Incredible fighter. Sad that we were never able to see him on footage like some other greats.

[frankenfrank]

Another disturbing name , this time IBHOF : Bob Foster.
Definitely undeserving .
If he deserves it then almost every past champion does.

[frankenfrank]

You still didn't explain why Fighting Harada is far from great? Enlighten us all with your amazing boxing wisdom from Boxrec mate.

Let's hear it.

Fighting Harada is greater than Lionel Rose , but let's review his record until the age of 24 , for no one will claim he was shot by then :
won 50 (KO 19) + lost 3 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 53

Harada "avenged" his very decisive stoppage loss against Jose Medel , 5 years older than himself with a 15 rounds decision .
That decision came against a 29 years old Medel.
Where was Harada himself by the time he was 29 ? 2 years retired at home.
Both started at age 17 to remove doubts.
Medel a mere contender was better than Harada , a "great" champion.
Harada has 2 paper wins over Eder Jofre , a true great.
The thing is they came against a 29 and then a 30 years old Jofre , remember where was Harada by that age.
Harada was 8 years younger than Jofre .
Still he barely coasted to a split decision win , almost getting stopped by the older man.
In their second fight Harada used his head against the older man , just to keep the tradition of headbutts delivered by fighters with a last name beginning with H.
Still , Harada could not even knock his older opponent down.

Harada's entire record by the age of 27 :
won 55 (KO 22) + lost 7 (KO 2) + drawn 0 = 62

[joseph5620]

I often hear people say lots of fighters shound't be in the IBHOF.

Name them!

Jose Torres is one. Actually there a lot of them.

[Obama]

Another disturbing name , this time IBHOF : Bob Foster.
Definitely undeserving .
If he deserves it then almost every past champion does.

No one would describe me as high on Bob Foster. To be perfectly honest before I saw this post I've yet to meet someone with a lower opinion of him than myself. But he absolutely deserves to make the HOF...if you take him out, you'd need to take out another 50 guys or so.

[frankenfrank]

No one would describe me as high on Bob Foster. To be perfectly honest before I saw this post I've yet to meet someone with a lower opinion of him than myself. But he absolutely deserves to make the HOF...if you take him out, you'd need to take out another 50 guys or so.

I just searched his record again , carefully , trying to find one respectable win I missed in the past . Failed again. Can you tell me about one win of his against a good opponent in his prime someone heard about ?