Is Wlad Greater Than These Heavyweights?

[Die Antwoord]

Glancing blow = Cutting blow. How many times do we have to read that Vitali was winning 4 rounds to 2, remember that Lewis won the last 2? Fighters can win the 1st eleven out of twelve it means diddly squat, last man standing counts.
As for Vitali being a little more experienced, he was 32 wasn't he? How many fights had he had, 30, 40?

And the old only given 10 days to prepare excuse? Want to try the butt excuse thats always a grin too! Dished out some of the biggest punches ever seen in the ring and has this KO% that every Klit fan ****s on about but didn't spark Lewis, yet McCall and Rahman whose KO % is far lower did? Makes you think doesn't it?

Uhh so if you dont KO a guy with big shots, and someone KO'ed him before, that means youre not a big puncher. Neither Briggs nor Tua KO'ed Lewis either and yet Briggs has twice as many KO 1's as Shavers.... makes you think doesnt it.

Also Vitali got started boxing professionally rather late in life due to kickboxing and keeping his amateur status for the olympics. Also injuries took a toll. If Vitali had started boxing younger, and had remained healthy theres no telling what he would do. Of course lewis won rounds when Vitali couldnt see...yeah that only makes Vitali's argument stronger. Again, Frazier and Norton beat Ali the first time they fought.

[GJC]

and yet Briggs has twice as many KO 1's as Shavers.... makes you think doesnt it.

Yeah makes me think how weak the current HW scene is.

Also Vitali got started boxing professionally rather late in life due to kickboxing and keeping his amateur status for the olympics.

Ah so he hadn't been boxing for 7 years when Lewis cut him up then? But I get what your saying, so in kick boxing the opponent isn't allowed to hit you then?
Re keeping his amateur status didn't anyone tip him off about drug tests?

Also injuries took a toll.

Always roids for that.

If Vitali had started boxing younger, and had remained healthy theres no telling what he would do.

Yep he would have had his butt handed to him by Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and Witherspoon too.

Of course lewis won rounds when Vitali couldnt see

I know sneaky sod hitting back like that
Thankfully the "contenders" now don't eh?

[Die Antwoord]

Yeah makes me think how weak the current HW scene is.


Ah so he hadn't been boxing for 7 years when Lewis cut him up then? But I get what your saying, so in kick boxing the opponent isn't allowed to hit you then?
Re keeping his amateur status didn't anyone tip him off about drug tests?

Always roids for that.

Yep he would have had his butt handed to him by Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and Witherspoon too.

I know sneaky sod hitting back like that
Thankfully the "contenders" now don't eh?

Briggs got most of his KO's in the 90's. want to talk about weak. 1/3rd of Shavers fights came against guys with losing records or no record at all. Now thats weak. And at least all of Briggs' ko's were against heavyweights.

How long had Ali been boxing when Frazier and Norton beat the hell out of him? lewis never gave Vitali a rematch and retired out of fear and cowardice. Now thats called a fact. The rest of your post is unsubstantiated opinion. And you can say those guys would beat Vitali, and I can say they dont, you provide no evidence nothing.

[GJC]

Briggs got most of his KO's in the 90's. want to talk about weak. 1/3rd of Shavers fights came against guys with losing records or no record at all. Now thats weak. And at least all of Briggs' ko's were against heavyweights.

How long had Ali been boxing when Frazier and Norton beat the hell out of him? lewis never gave Vitali a rematch and retired out of fear and cowardice. Now thats called a fact. The rest of your post is unsubstantiated opinion. And you can say those guys would beat Vitali, and I can say they dont, you provide no evidence nothing.

Seem to be changing the subject aa you people like to do when you run out of steam?
Lets me bullet point it to help you:

1) How long had Vitali been boxing when Lewis beat him?
2) Is kick boxing a combat/contact sport?
3)Would defending yourself be part of it?
4) Is Vitali's mystical KO record higher than McCall and Rahman?
5) Did he land enough to KO Lewis?
6) Was Vitali kicked out of the Olympics for steroid abuse?

[Die Antwoord]

Seem to be changing the subject aa you people like to do when you run out of steam?
Lets me bullet point it to help you:

1) How long had Vitali been boxing when Lewis beat him?
2) Is kick boxing a combat/contact sport?
3)Would defending yourself be part of it?
4) Is Vitali's mystical KO record higher than McCall and Rahman?
5) Did he land enough to KO Lewis?
6) Was Vitali kicked out of the Olympics for steroid abuse?

1. Vitali had been boxing on the world scene for just about 3-4 years at the time. He needed a few more fights before taking on the ring champ, he planned on doing it that wasy.

2. Kickboxings a combat sport. So is UFC, so Brock Lesnar is prepared for Wlad in the boxing ring then?

3. Defending yourself in kickboxing is a lot different from boxing. In kickboxing Vitali would have killed Lewis

4. Vitali's KO record agaisnt all heavyweights and people over 200 lbs, is higher than almost everyone in history at his level.

5. Vitali landed enough that he was in position to KO Lewis, he just wasnt experienced enough to go for it and thought he had forever in the fight and didnt want to risk it when he had the chance.

6. Vitali was coming off of an injury and used a drug that was banned as an amateur. Vitali was teh one who wrote about it and about how it had recently banned by the olympic committee and how he had no clue that it was. As a pro he hasnt failed a single test and he and Wlad have even agreed to OST...something tyson and holyfield and bowe and Lewis never went through as pros.

owned.

Again Ali lost his first match with Frazier and Norton.

[T.Horton]

there's barely any footage available on them, other than written accounts, and a couple of black and white clips, but yet you're confident in your answer that all of them would beat the Klit brothers lol. i always felt sorry for poor sobs like Wlad Owns who runs his own cheerleading squad on his spare time, but reading biased posts like these, makes rethink everything just one tiny bit.

seeing how Klitschkos are still active it wouldnt be fair to make the grade, but the way it looks for them now id say it's not criminal to say yes they are.

in a fight id favor the Klit brothers over all those guys, people here who are saying those guys would beat the brothers need to wake up. i know fighters of yesteryear are great and need to be respected and all, but these head to head match ups are getting sickeningly redicilous.

though after hearing how the likes of rocky marciano would maul over them in the openning seconds of the first round, nothing ever surprises me anymore.

Marciano is hugely under rated due to his size but he did some things in the ring that can't be taught.

Anybody who thinks Vit Klit is tougher than Rocky, I think you need to see more of Marciano.

[T.Horton]

1. Vitali had been boxing on the world scene for just about 3-4 years at the time. He needed a few more fights before taking on the ring champ, he planned on doing it that wasy.

2. Kickboxings a combat sport. So is UFC, so Brock Lesnar is prepared for Wlad in the boxing ring then?

3. Defending yourself in kickboxing is a lot different from boxing. In kickboxing Vitali would have killed Lewis

4. Vitali's KO record agaisnt all heavyweights and people over 200 lbs, is higher than almost everyone in history at his level.

5. Vitali landed enough that he was in position to KO Lewis, he just wasnt experienced enough to go for it and thought he had forever in the fight and didnt want to risk it when he had the chance.

6. Vitali was coming off of an injury and used a drug that was banned as an amateur. Vitali was teh one who wrote about it and about how it had recently banned by the olympic committee and how he had no clue that it was. As a pro he hasnt failed a single test and he and Wlad have even agreed to OST...something tyson and holyfield and bowe and Lewis never went through as pros.

owned.

Again Ali lost his first match with Frazier and Norton.

so the guy on his way to a doctorate didn't know what medicine he was taking? sounds bogus...

[T.Horton]

Not true at all. There is no minimum weight for the heavyweight division anymore, back in the day you had to be over 175...didnt stop some of the "greats" from dipping below that number though. When Jones for example moved up to fight Ruiz, he only went up to 193...not the 200 CW limit.

Keep living the dream Ruby Robert.

at the time the limit was 190

[Die Antwoord]

at the time the limit was 190

CW limit went up to 200 that year, it was upto the fighters to negotiate the limit. And dont start this again. THERE IS NO MINIMUM FOR HW. If there was Jones didnt make it because he wore street clothes and tennis shoes to the weigh in. How do you not see that. Ok, lets say there is a 200 lbs weight limit, which there isnt, who cares, what stops someone from wearing weights to the weigh in? Come fully clothed with 5 lbs weighs on their ankles, pockets, and 10 wrapped around their chest. There is no limit.

[T.Horton]

CW limit went up to 200 that year, it was upto the fighters to negotiate the limit. And dont start this again. THERE IS NO MINIMUM FOR HW. If there was Jones didnt make it because he wore street clothes and tennis shoes to the weigh in. How do you not see that. Ok, lets say there is a 200 lbs weight limit, which there isnt, who cares, what stops someone from wearing weights to the weigh in? Come fully clothed with 5 lbs weighs on their ankles, pockets, and 10 wrapped around their chest. There is no limit.

not sure i get your point...